PAWN RIOT VS The Forum Moves 24 and 25

paulbuchmanfromfics

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18 Feb 09 17:14

ptobler

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23 Feb 09 04:37

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Originally posted by ItsYouThatIAdore
I have not participated yet in the discussion for this game, but after looking through the position I hope I can add some input?

25. Nc7 seems strongest, as Tony said it hits d5 with tempo...! considering this, I think white can play 26. d6...
26. exd6 after which white could play check on the back ranks to free some pressure from the pin forc ...[text shortened]... think Bd5 or Nd5 from this postion will be strong for black...

I hope this makes sense lol!!

What should we do about 28. Rd8 in this line? (viz. 25...Nc7 26 d6 exd6 27 Rb8+ Kh7 28 Rd8) I hope this is not a silly question as I have not put much thought into it...

ptobler

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23 Feb 09 04:43

Originally posted by ptobler
What should we do about 28. Rd8 in this line? (viz. 25...Nc7 26 d6 exd6 27 Rb8+ Kh7 28 Rd8) I hope this is not a silly question as I have not put much thought into it...

Possibly 28 Rd8 Ba4 29 Rxd6 Bxd4+ 30 Bxd4 Bxc2 31 Rc1 Nb5 ?

ptobler

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24 Feb 09 01:32

bumping this up to the top of the pile

ItsYouThatIAdore

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24 Feb 09 08:19

28. Rd8 is not very strong for black, we can play Ba4 putting more pressure on the squares protected by the pinned knight. If 29. Rxd6? A simple Nb5 quickly gains us a tempo and more counterplay then the worth of the pawn. I doubt white would follow this line, as well his logical response would to play 30. Rd8 and now our knight can go to either a3 or c3, and we are doing much better I think with an easy ability to at least gain back the pawn.

Hope this helps...

Nc7!!

ItsYouThatIAdore

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24 Feb 09 08:21

Originally posted by ptobler
bumping this up to the top of the pile

We definitely do not want to exchange the bishop for the knight, the pin is very strong, and the two bishops give us a lot of attack against white's defense

Garnoth

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24 Feb 09 09:54

I vote for Nc7

ptobler

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25 Feb 09 21:06

bumping to the top of the pile

Nowakowski

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25 Feb 09 21:09

Originally posted by ptobler
bumping to the top of the pile

Nc7

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26 Feb 09 16:49

Originally posted by ptobler
What should we do about 28. Rd8 in this line? (viz. 25...Nc7 26 d6 exd6 27 Rb8+ Kh7 28 Rd8) I hope this is not a silly question as I have not put much thought into it...

This was from the previous thread:
23...Qxc4 24.Qxc4 Rxc4 25.Rd1 Nc7 26.d6 exd6 27.Rb8+ Kh7 28.Rb7 Be8
23...Qxc4 24.Qxc4 Rxc4 25.Rd1 Nc7 26.Rb8+ Kh7 27.Rd8 Nxd5 28.Bg1 Nc3 29.Re1 Ba4 30.Rxe7 Rb4 31.Re1 Nb5 32.c3 Nxc3 33.Rc8 Nb5 34.Rd8 draw
23...Qxc4 24.Qxc4 Rxc4 25.Rb7 Ba4 26.Rxe7 Nd6 27.Kb1
23...Qxc4 24.Qxc4 Rxc4 25.Rb7 Ba4 26.Rxe7 Nd6 27.Rd1 Nc7 28.d6

!~TONY~!

1...c5!

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26 Feb 09 19:00

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One idea after the suggested:

25...Nc7 26. d6 exd6 27. Rb8+ Kh7 28. Rd8 (I think this is the line) is the very pretty (I'm pleased to have found this neat line):

28...Bf5! 29. Rxd6 Nb5 30. Rd8 Bxc2 31. Rd2 Rb4! 32. Rxc2 Nxd4, which actually looks winning for Black. Maybe there's some improvement in there for White, or maybe 28. Rd8 is no good.

EDIT: Looks like a similar line was already suggested! 28...Bf5 and 28...Ba4 probably amount to the same thing...

mazattack

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27 Feb 09 17:50

Well, after Nc7

It is white's 28th move which is in doubt.

Either Rb7 or Rd8 - and we have satisfactory or even winning lines in both positions, so... Nc7 it is - surely!?

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