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  1. 30 May '09 02:57
    I wonder whether there is a graph of this somewhere showing games played by players at different ratings and the % of outcomes that are draws. I'd be interested in seeing that.
  2. Standard member wormwood
    If Theres Hell Below
    30 May '09 03:25
    it depends on horoscopes.

    if your star sign is the leko or a kramnik, you draw. if your sign is the topalov or the tal, drawing is not your destiny.
  3. 30 May '09 03:37
    I know personally, drawing has always been a rare thing (I think it's like 18 out of 403 games)
  4. 30 May '09 03:55
    For the 1400+ database = 10.6%

    For the 1900+ database = 27.2%

    For the master's games database = 41.7%
  5. 30 May '09 03:58
    Who cares, chess sucks
  6. 30 May '09 09:50
    Originally posted by patzer2007
    I wonder whether there is a graph of this somewhere showing games played by players at different ratings and the % of outcomes that are draws. I'd be interested in seeing that.
    I'm pretty sure there would be a strong correlation between the two. the stronger one gets, the more respect he has for the opponent, and the more accurately he assesses his winning chances in positions.
  7. 30 May '09 13:55
    Originally posted by philidor position
    I'm pretty sure there would be a strong correlation between the two. the stronger one gets, the more respect he has for the opponent, and the more accurately he assesses his winning chances in positions.
    Depends on style of play/opening selection as well though.
  8. 30 May '09 14:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by wormwood
    it depends on horoscopes.

    if your star sign is the leko or a kramnik, you draw. if your sign is the topalov or the tal, drawing is not your destiny.
    You must be kidding a wee bit must you? I'm glad you moved from crack mountain, it was difficult to make sense of your incoherent babbles. This reply shows that, that stuff takes a wee bit of time to get out of your system.
  9. 30 May '09 14:51
    Originally posted by patzer2007
    I wonder whether there is a graph of this somewhere showing games played by players at different ratings and the % of outcomes that are draws. I'd be interested in seeing that.
    Only USCF ratings for 1997, but maybe this link will hold your interest.

    http://math.bu.edu/people/mg/ratings/Draws.jpg
  10. Standard member wormwood
    If Theres Hell Below
    30 May '09 15:17
    Originally posted by Jasen777
    For the 1400+ database = 10.6%

    For the 1900+ database = 27.2%

    For the master's games database = 41.7%
    my drawing percentage was 4.7% at 1600. at 2000 it's 5.0%.

    not much change there.

    I think it's much more about how much of a risk taker a player is, than how strong you are.
  11. 30 May '09 16:01 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by wormwood
    my drawing percentage was 4.7% at 1600. at 2000 it's 5.0%.

    not much change there.

    I think it's much more about how much of a risk taker a player is, than how strong you are.
    that is of course the most important factor for individuals. but in general, I would expect the average percentage get higher in large groups, especially on the way to grandmaster strength. .
  12. Subscriber duecer
    anybody seen my
    30 May '09 16:16 / 1 edit
    I am at 5.75%. I don't get a lot of draw offers, and I play most games to the end in hopes of a stalemate like this one: Game 6058263
  13. Standard member wormwood
    If Theres Hell Below
    30 May '09 17:07 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by philidor position
    that is of course the most important factor for individuals. but in general, I would expect the average percentage get higher in large groups, especially on the way to grandmaster strength. .
    actually, it's been shown that aggressive style scores (slightly) more points, on grandmaster level. it was studied a couple of years ago.



    found it. well, a chessbase bit on it to be exact.

    Embracing Risk in Tournaments:
    http://www.chessbase.de/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3528
  14. 30 May '09 21:34
    I think better players are less likely to make blunders, thus causing more draws. At least on the amateur level.
  15. 30 May '09 23:56
    Originally posted by wormwood
    actually, it's been shown that aggressive style scores (slightly) more points, on grandmaster level. it was studied a couple of years ago.



    found it. well, a chessbase bit on it to be exact.

    Embracing Risk in Tournaments:
    http://www.chessbase.de/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3528
    That link just says that more aggressive players win more tournaments than players who draw more often, which is pretty obvious. It doesn't say they get better scores overall.