Originally posted by Quits
I am new to this site and I don't want to start a thread that will be immediately deleted as I have a serious inquiry about player ability.
I am far from a great player but I have noticed alot of beat around the bush type accusations of cheating. Now I am not saying that this is not the case, but I am very curious about how it would be possible to accuratel ...[text shortened]... eir opponent is truly cheating or merely taking the time to accurately consider the best moves?
They can tell by matching the moves over a number of games to a certain computer loaded with a certain chess engine, like say, a 4 core Intel system running 3 Ghz with 4 gigs of ram running Rybka, and they find say, a 90% agreement with the moves that would have been made by the computer. The thing that makes it difficult and time consuming is there are hundreds of possible computer types and software matches. So Fritz running on a dual core Apple would have such and such a record and if your games match that, a bunch of games, say, then statistically it is safe to say you used that combination of computer and software for your moves.
There was one guy in Moscow who was beating 2500 players and they weren't sure how he was doing it so they put him in a room by himself and he couldn't even name the openings used and lost the rest of the games played. He had a receiver with some kind of buzzer in his shoe that communicated to a dude in a van outside with some computer/software combo that was rated something like 2700 and of course it would beat humans rated 2500, till he got caught out, anyway.
So here they have to try out a lot of different combinations of computer and software, run the same series through all of them to say one way or another X player is using a chess engine.
The thing is, matching even a player like Bobby Fischer or Spassky or Kasparov, none of those guys would even come close to 90 or 100% match move for move of a strong computer/software combo.
And it follows if THOSE dudes can't match a computer move for move exactly, have exactly the same sequence of moves, then some run of the mill master, say a real 2300 player here would be even further down the food chain of comparison to a chess engine assuming he was not using a computer but just his own mind with help from opening theory and such, which is allowed.
Some of the banned players here matched certain combinations of computer/software something like 100%, pretty conclusive evidence they are cheating with an engine. It seems the higher up the ladder you go here, more and more of them are caught out eventually. Like Weyerstrass, supposedly a real IM, there actually is one but this dude here wasn't him, matched a computer combo very well and got canned. He fooled me, I actually had PM'd him a few times on games and I had no idea he was cheating.