Originally posted by PBE635. .... g4+ ?? 36.Qxg4+ wins for white
Same idea, but doesn't 35. ... g4+! win immediately? 35. ... g4+ 36. Kxg4 (forced) Ne3+ 37. Kf3 Nxd1 38. Rxe7 Rxh2 with the capture of the a-pawn soon after. I realize this leaves both sides with an extra rook over the game continuation, but I don't think white can generate much counterplay regardless.
Originally posted by SwissGambitI don't see the mating pattern here.
Fischer-Benko, US Ch. 1963
[pgn]
[FEN "r3qr1k/pp3pbp/2pn4/7Q/3pP3/2NB3P/PPP3P1/R4RK1 w - - 0 19"]
19. Rf6 Kg8 20. e5 h6 21. Ne2
[/pgn]
A beautiful, yet simple idea. If 19...BxR, 20.e5 and the Bishop is blocking f7-f5, the only defense against the mate.
Benko saw this, and decided to lose more slowly instead. 😀
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Originally posted by Mephisto2Why didn't white just take the knight with queen? Black takes queen, white takes rook?
I like this one from the game Bellon - Garcia, Cienfuegos 1978: 38. .... Rg2!!
and white resigned.
[pgn]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be2 e6 7.O-O Qc7 8.f4 Be7 9.Kh1 Nc6 10.Be3 O-O 11.Qe1 Na5 12.Rd1 b5 13.e5 dxe5 14.fxe5 Qxe5 15.Bf4 Qc5 16.Bf3 Bb7 17.b4 Qxb4 18.Bxb7 Rad8 19.Nc6 Nxc6 20.Bxc6 Rc8 21.Bd2 Rxc6 22.Nd5 Nxd5 23.Bxb4 B ...[text shortened]... 31.Kg2 Rc2+ 32.Kh3 g5 33.Ra3 Be7 34.Qd1 Rb2 35.Ra7 f5 36.Rxe7 Nxe7 37.g4 Nd5 38.gxf5 Rg2
[/pgn]
It's obvious black ends up a knight up if white just takes the rook right off. With QxN, black can't for instance take the a pawn, it's now protected by the queen and if pXQ, kXR and it looks like he gets the pawn back, it looks like the white king is closer to the center at that point. I didn't actually play it over the board, just looking at it. Does that sound right?
Originally posted by greenpawn34This post taught me to respect computers and that they have something to teach instead of seeing them as merely walls to knock down.
They asked Kaissa why it did not play 1...Kg7.
You will have to imagine the indignity Kaissa felt having to explain
itself to these human patzers.
Originally posted by sonhouseNo, it doesnt sound right.
Does that sound right?
Look closer. The problem for white isnt the passed d pawn, it is blacks (soon to be advanced) g pawn.
White has one king and cannot deal with both threats. If he goes for the d pawn he drops the f pawn. If he goes for the g pawn he cant stop the d pawn.
If I played a game like that I would be in tears at the end. Queen vs Rook/Knight endgame and losing? Preposterous!
Originally posted by sonhouseThe zwischenzug 39.QxNd5 Rxh2+ is kind of cute.
Why didn't white just take the knight with queen? Black takes queen, white takes rook?
It's obvious black ends up a knight up if white just takes the rook right off. With QxN, black can't for instance take the a pawn, it's now protected by the queen and if pXQ, kXR and it looks like he gets the pawn back, it looks like the white king is closer to the cent ...[text shortened]... point. I didn't actually play it over the board, just looking at it. Does that sound right?
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Originally posted by toeternitoeThis one is absolutely EPIC. Not only does the move just look bats*** crazy wedging your Queen between a row of pawns and the opponent's queen, he had to think through three possible ways for the Queen to be captured plus a deflection of his knight, ALL of which end up in mating webs or mate in one.
Levitsky-Marshall,1912
23.... Qg3!! words cannot describe it.
[pgn][Event "DSB Kongress XVIII"]
[Site "Breslau"]
[Date "1912.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "06"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Stefan Levitsky"]
[Black "Frank James Marshall"]
[ECO "B23"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "46"]
1.d4 e6 2.e4 d5 3.Nc3 c5 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.exd5 ex ...[text shortened]... Nd4 20.Qh5 Ref8 21.Re5 Rh6 22.Qg5 Rxh3
23.Rc5 Qg3 0-1
[/pgn]
toet.
Edit: Actually... if he takes with the Queen he can squeeze by with doubled pawns, three isolated pawns and a knight down. Am I wrong on that?
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperIt is relative best since anything else ends in checkmate but
This one is absolutely EPIC. Not only does the move just look bats*** crazy wedging your Queen between a row of pawns and the opponent's queen, he had to think through three possible ways for the Queen to be captured plus a deflection of his knight, ALL of which end up in mating webs or mate in one.
Edit: Actually... if he takes with the Queen ...[text shortened]... can squeeze by with doubled pawns, three isolated pawns and a knight down. Am I wrong on that?
24.Qxg3 Ne2+ 25.Kh1 Nxg3+ 26.Kg1 (fxg3 Rxf1 mate) Ne2+ 27.Kh1 Ra3 and black is up a piece
toet.
I see all the old classic are coming out - brilliant.
Surprised that some players may never have seen them before.
The Larsen-Spassky game is just magnificent.
Next time they met Larsen again played 1.b3 against Spassky,
this time they drew.
How about 'famous moves' that were never played.
Years ago I toyed with the idea of a book called: 'Unheard Melodies'
All the brilliant variations that never appeared in games because
they were either missed or prevented.
There are some utterly fantastic moves lying under the surface of
even the most blandest of games.
Sometimes they replaced the moves that were actually
played in the real game (Alekhine did this a few times).
This from the 'Melodramatic' category.
Capablanca - Janowski, Sans Sebastian 1911.
Black to play
Janowski's simple win was 53...Qh1+ 53...NxB and 54...Qg2.
He missed it (53....Qe1+) and lost the game.
The consequences of this missed move, according to Edward Lasker, were.
Capablanca won the tournament and the Cuban government gave him
a cushy job for life in the diplomatic service.
Not having to work for a living is a certain bonus for a chess player.
If Capa had lost then Rubenstein would have won the tournament and
people where ready to back him for a match for the World Championship
against Emanuel Lasker.
A lot of people think Rubenstein who at his peak then would have won it.
Rubenstein never got a shot at the work title and his mental health suffered
thinking the fates was against him.
Capablanca never worked again.
All because of a missed move.
two games come to mind. Karpov's ba7. The idea of closing the a-file on unsuspecting black players has been repeated lately by players such as bareev and andrew greet.
[Event "Nice"]
[Site "Nice"]
[Date "1974.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Anatoli Karpov"]
[Black "Wolfgang Unzicker"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[ECO "C98"]
[Result "1-0"]