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    01 Oct '10 04:512 edits
    I got a few requests to annotate a game I played vs. Quo Vadis on the 1 Day Timeout Ladder. I'm not a great player by any stretch of the imagination but I feel like I played this game about as well as I'm capable...



    In reality though, this is great for white!



    White can play 16.f5 here and have a raging attack. White's knight does such a fine job of clogging up black's game on d6 the h-file's not going to be a factor for a while. I guess I ruled Ne4 out too soon because it was a counterintuitive concept for me... to give black what he wanted: the open h-file. Sometimes you've gotta give play to get play though.





    The b-pawn and c-pawn are immune as white's knight is getting to d6 with tempo and black's b4 pawn is hanging. White will have an active game.

    One variation goes: 16...Bxc2 17.Rb1 Bc3 18.Bxc3 bxc3 19.Nd6+ Kf8 20.Rb3 and white will equalize material but keep all the play:



    Of course there are many more variations, all of which I didn't see. The point is that again I missed Ne4! And I suppose the lesson is that it's usually superior to play for activity than to shore up your position. I can't say I'm too disappointed that I missed Ne4 this time around though as the variations are extremely complicated (for me).



    If 22...Nf2+ 23.Rxf2 Qxf2 then 24.Be3! and black loses his queen or has to face Qxd7+:






    If 23...Nf2+ then 24.Rxf2 Qxf2 25.Nc7+ Kf8 26.Qd5 and black's busted in this position:



    27.Bb4+ or Ne6+ will be decisive...



    24...Nf2+ 25.Rxf2 Qxf2 26.Nc7+ Kf8 27.Bb4+ Bd6 28.Ne6! game over:



    Of course this game was extremely complicated, I couldn't possibly cover all lines. Also, I tried to do most of the analysis without the use of Fritz, so I'm sure there are improvements to be made all over the place. Hopefully some of you would be so kind!

    The one major exception is the 15.a4 section just because I missed that entirely on my own. So that's all Fritz. All other variations have been checked with Fritz in order to make sure I haven't embarrassed myself. However, in most places I imagine there are better moves waiting to be found!
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    01 Oct '10 05:43
    Good Job!
    I liked it.
    The only thing I can add is about the Kan/Taimanov.
    In the Kan, black delays Nc6 and plays b5 really early. Sometimes the knight even goes to d7. When the knight hits c6 early, it's a Taimanov.

    That was a nice effort.

    Now, show me a blitz game.

    Ha Ha Ha

    🙂
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    01 Oct '10 07:39
    Nice game, although I play the Kan and 7...Bd6 is a really ugly move, that bishop belongs on c5, e7 or a7 eventually, Bd6 is just a waste of tempo and black should be able to play d6 whenever he wants.

    But other than that, nice game!
  4. Standard membernimzo5
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    01 Oct '10 11:55
    This is one of the better games I have seen on this site. Thanks for the annotation!
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    01 Oct '10 21:52
    Originally posted by Gatusso
    Nice game, although I play the Kan and 7...Bd6 is a really ugly move, that bishop belongs on c5, e7 or a7 eventually, Bd6 is just a waste of tempo and black should be able to play d6 whenever he wants.

    But other than that, nice game!
    Yeah it was a real game changer... :🙄
    In my experience it's important to experiment, even with ideas you know to be inferior. Thanks though.

    @ Nimzo:

    Danke. It was probably the cleanest game I've played here. Neither of us blundered any material (although higher rated players might feel different...) which is usually how these things go. Also it was aesthetically pleasing that there were so many "trip wires" we both had to navigate through.
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    02 Oct '10 04:32
    I going to drop the bomb on Mr Arrogant.

    1. I don't see the annotation of the game. Use google to find out how to annotate a game.
    2. Look at games on chessbase to see how they annotate games and explain key moments in the game.
    3. What opening is this and who deviated from book?

    On the poor attempt by Mr Arrogant, I would be generous and award a D. Try a little harder.
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    02 Oct '10 05:41
    From your very first diagram how does white respond to q-d8!?
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    02 Oct '10 20:03
    Originally posted by enrico20
    I going to drop the bomb on Mr Arrogant.

    1. I don't see the annotation of the game. Use google to find out how to annotate a game.
    2. Look at games on chessbase to see how they annotate games and explain key moments in the game.
    3. What opening is this and who deviated from book?

    On the poor attempt by Mr Arrogant, I would be generous and award a D. Try a little harder.
    This is a true story. Earlier today I was walking across campus to the cafeteria. Of course the grounds are still recovering from the first 2 weeks of constant partying and idiocy... so there are gulls... everywhere. Like 1000s of gulls turning fields from vibrant green to dirty white. Gulls staring down at you from rooftops with 2 week old, rotting food festering from their bills. Horrible.

    OK so I'm walking. And as I'm walking I start to hear this pitter-patter behind me like rain. I'm thinking, "Oh great I'm going to get soaked and freezing..." It's not rain though. It's seagull feces. A literal ****storm. I can see a beam of destruction laid out behind me. A highway of wet, sparkling white and teary-eyed students. Some are embarrassed, others are pissed off and shaking fists at the heavens, and some are in a mute state of shock, unable to comprehend the cruelty of the universe.

    I am on my game though, and I reflexively dart for cover under a large-leafed tree. The seagulls seem to be flying in WWII fighter plane style... and they conduct 3 or 4 more flybys. Some of the less fortunate souls are pelted a second, or even third time. I realize I'm surveying a war zone. I think to myself, "Man I sure was lucky to make it out of there so fresh and so clean. But at least the people back there don't have to deal with enrico20 on the RHP forums..." And I cursed the heavens.



    @erikado:

    In that first diagram it's white to move. So 16.f5 Qd8:



    The position does look double edged... but I think white has several reasonable moves here. 17.f6 is tempting... creating a dangerous "thorn pawn". The white rook on f1 would be neutralized in the process though and other open lines will be hard to come by. So it's a judgement call. 17.Qg3 seems like the most natural way to parry 17...Qh4 as it keeps more options open.
  9. Standard membernimzo5
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    04 Oct '10 16:23
    Originally posted by enrico20
    I going to drop the bomb on Mr Arrogant.

    1. I don't see the annotation of the game. Use google to find out how to annotate a game.
    2. Look at games on chessbase to see how they annotate games and explain key moments in the game.
    3. What opening is this and who deviated from book?

    On the poor attempt by Mr Arrogant, I would be generous and award a D. Try a little harder.
    Must not feed the troll...
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    04 Oct '10 17:07
    Originally posted by erikido
    From your very first diagram how does white respond to q-d8!?
    Have I got to show you guys everything.

    It's mate in 25.

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    06 Oct '10 00:29
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Have I got to show you guys everything.

    It's mate in 25.

    [pgn]
    [FEN "r1bq1k1r/bp1p1pp1/p2Np3/4PP2/6p1/3Q4/PPP3PP/R1B2R1K w - - 0 1"]
    1. Nxf7 Kxf7 2. fxe6+ Kg8 3. e7 Qxe7 4. Bg5 Qxg5 5. Qd5+ Kh7 6. Qe4+ Qg6 7.Rf5 d5 8. Rh5+ Kg8 9. Qxg6 Rxh5 10. Qe8+ Kh7 11. Qxh5+ Kg8 12. Qe8+ Kh7 13.e6 b5 14. Qh5+ Kg8 15. Qf7+ Kh7 16. e7 Bd7 17. Rf1 Be8 18. Qf5+ ...[text shortened]... 19.Qxd5 Rb8 20. Rf8+ Kh7 21. Rxe8 Rxe8 22. Qh5+ Kg8 23. Qxe8+ Kh7 24. Qh5+ Kg8 25. e8=R[/pgn]
    yes it seems pretty much forced all the way.
    Except move 1 where black instead of taking the knight can try the desperate 1...Rxh2+ 2.Kxh2 Qh4+ 3.Qh3 gxh3
    But it is bad manners to refuse a sacrifice so he should take on f7 and accept his fate.
  12. SubscriberPaul Leggett
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    06 Oct '10 00:34
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Have I got to show you guys everything.

    It's mate in 25.

    [pgn]
    [FEN "r1bq1k1r/bp1p1pp1/p2Np3/4PP2/6p1/3Q4/PPP3PP/R1B2R1K w - - 0 1"]
    1. Nxf7 Kxf7 2. fxe6+ Kg8 3. e7 Qxe7 4. Bg5 Qxg5 5. Qd5+ Kh7 6. Qe4+ Qg6 7.Rf5 d5 8. Rh5+ Kg8 9. Qxg6 Rxh5 10. Qe8+ Kh7 11. Qxh5+ Kg8 12. Qe8+ Kh7 13.e6 b5 14. Qh5+ Kg8 15. Qf7+ Kh7 16. e7 Bd7 17. Rf1 Be8 18. Qf5+ ...[text shortened]... 19.Qxd5 Rb8 20. Rf8+ Kh7 21. Rxe8 Rxe8 22. Qh5+ Kg8 23. Qxe8+ Kh7 24. Qh5+ Kg8 25. e8=R[/pgn]
    I am afraid of what would happen if GP showed us everything.

    It would be the first "Death by Full Monty" every recorded!
  13. timed out again
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    06 Oct '10 17:10
    See what a blitz/rapid player sees. Refutation of GreenPawn's sac :-



    If you cannot see the sac then you need to get down and do 50 pushups.
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    06 Oct '10 17:15
    Originally posted by enrico20
    See what a blitz/rapid player sees. Refutation of GreenPawn's sac :-

    [pgn][FEN "r1bq1k1r/bp1p1pp1/p2Np3/4PP2/6p1/3Q4/PPP3PP/R1B2R1K w - - 0 1"] [PlyCount "8"] 1. Nxf7 Rxh2+ 2. Kxh2 Qh4+ 3. Qh3 gxh3 4. Bg5 Qg4 *[/pgn]

    If you cannot see the sac then you need to get down and do 50 pushups.
    and if you don't see that i just showed the same line 2 posts above, how many pushups ? 😉
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    06 Oct '10 17:34
    Originally posted by shorbock
    and if you don't see that i just showed the same line 2 posts above, how many pushups ? 😉
    I'm concentrating on greenpawn and divgrad's posts along with their linebacker nimzo5. They don't want blitz discussed on the forum because of their "high quality games" and yet their high quality game is full of holes.
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