Originally posted by no1marauderyes it may be equally counter productive, but what measures are there? i noticed when i was playing blitz as a guest on ICC that someone had their rating instantly reduced for cheating, why is the same mechanism also not available for RHP? is there a vast difference between real-time chess and CC that makes this almost impossible? How does the ICC monitor all those games? It must be through a piece of software.
So says the Forum Moderator.
Does blatant and obvious cheating being allowed to go on for months and/or years "reflect well on RHP"?
Originally posted by Forum Moderator(Shrug) Been all through this for years; experience tells me to have no faith in the procedures, if any, put in place by the Site Admins unless their constant failure to punish blatant and obvious cheats is pointed out for the entire community to see. When enough people complain something eventually gets done, like it did with the original establishment of Game Mods and the IM31 banning. But eternal vigilance is required or the Site Admins, who have little understanding of chess themselves, let the situation relapse to one where obvious cheaters are shooting up the rankings charts. This is certainly the case yet again and censoring posts which bring forth compelling evidence of blatant cheating just exacerbates the problem.
The two are completely different things.
Cheating is against TOS.
Users with evidence of cheating should use the procedures in place, rather than point the finger in public. Site Admin don't want a name and shame witch hunt in the forums and so accusations are subject to removal.
If users aren't happy with the procedures in place then suggest new ones or contact Site Admin
Originally posted by homedepotovYou have creamed me quite a few times there, must've been higher powers behind your mouse
And what about people who accuse people of cheating at blitz?
I have been accused a few times of cheating at blitz (incredibly enough) and so now I've decided to only play 1 minute blitz games as it would seem much more difficult for me to cheat using a computer at that speed.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's not that the structure of the system is wrong or ineffective. You may come up with the best system possible but unless someone does anything about even the most obvious cases, it's still useless.
People people, please we are interested in solutions. Obviously the fair play scheme is not working, or is not working to satisfaction, therefore, what alternatives do you propose? i suggest that everyone has a right to be tried by ones peers, therefore a judicial procedure should take place, in public and evidence presented for the prosecution and ...[text shortened]... icked at random from among the RHP members, who shall look at the case on its individual merits.
Originally posted by philidor positioni dunno, this thing must be the scourge of the internet correspondence chess playing community. How does ICC deal with it? As i stated when I was playing blitz a little message appeared on the window saying that someone was a cheat and would have their rating reduced. how does other chess sites deal with it, for there may be a precedent or a system that can be utilised?
It's not that the structure of the system is wrong or ineffective. You may come up with the best system possible but unless someone does anything about even the most obvious cases, it's still useless.
Originally posted by heinzkatI don't know. Maybe all these zero-sum competitive/adversarial games don't work for me as they seem to trigger bouts of insane rage. I tell myself it's just a game and don't take it seriously and then I end up taking it seriously and getting angry.
You have creamed me quite a few times there, must've been higher powers behind your mouse
Originally posted by homedepotovOften after only two moves or so against a p1200 I'm already bored and fed up with the game. Talking about a short attention span ........
I don't know. Maybe all these zero-sum competitive/adversarial games don't work for me as they seem to trigger bouts of insane rage. I tell myself it's just a game and don't take it seriously and then I end up taking it seriously and getting angry.
I simply don't have the patience and mental toughness for grueling correspondence or over-the-board games. I like short and sweet games. My attention span is too short, I guess.
Originally posted by greenpawn34my goodness? is it true? how can that be? do they not realise that its a gentlemanly game? they should have a set of flintlock pistols and a set of French foils for anyone caught in ungentlemanly behaviour! if they have a disagreement, then they can take it outside! This naturally would not apply to ladies, their chief reason for being there, to provide décor and tie their handkerchiefs to their favourite players. One must of course applaud the proprietors good sense in not allowing ladies to enter such an establishment, lest they spoil the atmosphere with meaningful conversation and requests for Malibu and pineapple! A place where ones wife is banned? How fortunate! you must have fallen in the Leven and come out with the contract to dredge the place pawn dude!
The system for catching cheats has been in place for years.
If you see someone's name and it has a wee green light next to it
then they are using a computer - they have to be.
Robbie, I could not answer you in the other thread because it got stitched up.
Blitz is banned in Bells because it caused to many fights.
There are a whole bunch of Bell y glare).
We can talk chess and I can still bring out a board but blitz is frowned upon.