Punish the Chigorin OTB

my OTB opponent this week is a Chigorin fanatic and will do anythign to get the Chigorin move orders in, so I wondered is a there a way to move order him and punish this early Nc6 without transposing into a mainline he'll be cosy in 🙂

If I play 1.Nf3 (because he doesnt like a reti e.g. 1.Nf3 d5, 2.c4 type of positions) he'll play 1..Nc6

Originally posted by plopzilla
my OTB opponent this week is a Chigorin fanatic and will do anythign to get the Chigorin move orders in, so I wondered is a there a way to move order him and punish this early Nc6 without transposing into a mainline he'll be cosy in 🙂

If I play 1.Nf3 (because he doesnt like a reti e.g. 1.Nf3 d5, 2.c4 type of positions) he'll play 1..Nc6

Why not play like this?



Or if

I guess the obvious answer is to turn it into a king's pawn opening.
1. Nf3 Nc6 2. e4.

Originally posted by plopzilla
my OTB opponent this week is a Chigorin fanatic and will do anythign to get the Chigorin move orders in, so I wondered is a there a way to move order him and punish this early Nc6 without transposing into a mainline he'll be cosy in 🙂

If I play 1.Nf3 (because he doesnt like a reti e.g. 1.Nf3 d5, 2.c4 type of positions) he'll play 1..Nc6

1 Nf3 can be equalized by c5 imo

Originally posted by Fat Lady
I guess the obvious answer is to turn it into a king's pawn opening.
1. Nf3 Nc6 2. e4.

he is a very strong tactical player - I am much more positional.

after 1.Nf3 Nc6 2.e4 e5 3.Bb5 f5 etc he'll be very happy

Originally posted by plopzilla
my OTB opponent this week is a Chigorin fanatic and will do anythign to get the Chigorin move orders in, so I wondered is a there a way to move order him and punish this early Nc6 without transposing into a mainline he'll be cosy in 🙂

If I play 1.Nf3 (because he doesnt like a reti e.g. 1.Nf3 d5, 2.c4 type of positions) he'll play 1..Nc6

I started a thread about this a while ago. If you read through, you'll find some interesting master games linked. I think this idea of playing Ne5 ..Nxe5 dxe5 is actually really strong for white. Black almost always accepts the opportunity to double whites pawns...

Thread 148830

Originally posted by plopzilla
he is a very strong tactical player - I am much more positional.

after 1.Nf3 Nc6 2.e4 e5 3.Bb5 f5 etc he'll be very happy

1. Nf3 Nc6 2. d4 d5 3. g3 will frustrate him nicely.

Originally posted by Divot Farmer
1. Nf3 Nc6 2. d4 d5 3. g3 will frustrate him nicely.

Or 1. Nf3 Nc6 2. d4 d5 3. e3

1.Nf3 Nc6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3!

Hit him with the Chigorin reversed! (well kind off)

Or get in toudh with grahamhammer User 600342

In the past two years he has played the Chigorin as Black 50 times.
Winning 43 drawing 6 and losing just 1!

He may give you a line that Black does not like playing against.
(there again he may not.) 🙂

You also might try something like this: