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Originally posted by Korch[Event "2006 Championship"]
If Bf5 is played before c6 white can play Qb3
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2006.05.15"]
[EndDate "2006.06.09"]
[Round "2"]
[White "David Tebb"]
[Black "schakuhr"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "2075437"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nb1c3 Ng8f6 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bc1g5 Bf8e7 6. e3 Bc8f5 7. Bg5xf6 Be7xf6 8. Qd1b3 Nb8d7 9. Nc3xd5 O-O 10. Nd5xf6 Nd7xf6 11. Ng1f3 c5 12. dxc5 Qd8a5 13. Qb3c3 Qa5xc3 14. bxc3 Ra8c8 15. Nf3d4 Rc8xc5 16. Nd4xf5 Rc5xf5 17. c4 Rf8d8 18. Bf1e2 Nf6e4 19. Be2f3 Ne4c3 20. Bf3xb7 Rf5c5 21. O-O Rc5xc4 22. Bb7f3 Rd8c8 23. g3 g5 24. g4 Kg8g7 25. Kg1g2 Kg7f6 26. Rf1c1 Kf6e5 27. Rc1c2 Rc4c5 28. h4 h6 29. hxg5 hxg5 30. Ra1h1 f6 31. Rh1h7 Rc8c7 32. Rh7h8 Rc7c8 33. Rh8xc8 1/2-1/2
Originally posted by schakuhrGame 2075437
[Event "2006 Championship"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2006.05.15"]
[EndDate "2006.06.09"]
[Round "2"]
[White "David Tebb"]
[Black "schakuhr"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "2075437"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nb1c3 Ng8f6 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bc1g5 Bf8e7 6. e3 Bc8f5 7. Bg5xf6 Be7xf6 8. Qd1b3 Nb8d7 9. Nc3xd5 O-O 10. Nd5xf6 Nd7xf6 11. Ng1f3 c5 12 ...[text shortened]... 29. hxg5 hxg5 30. Ra1h1 f6 31. Rh1h7 Rc8c7 32. Rh7h8 Rc7c8 33. Rh8xc8 1/2-1/2
Originally posted by zebanoIn this game D Tebb played the opening well and got a clear advantage. Bf5 isn't easy to play in the Exchange Variation of the Queens Gambit with Bg5
Game 2075437
Hence why I would play 3...Be7 as it is much easier to activate the light squred bishop to this square. Playing for example 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Be7 4.Nf3 Nf6 this stops White playing the Exchange Variation proper as Black here will achieve placing the bishop on f5!
I don't know if D Tebb's opponent got confused with the similar line.
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.cd5 ed5 5.Bg5 c6 6.e3 Bf5.
When White plays Qf3 leaving Black with doubled isolated f pawns.
I remember seeing one of my team mates get beaten badly in this line against Richard Palliser (BCF 230+, ELO 2450) last year in the Woodhouse Cup (Yorkshire League), but apparently it is playable, Short has played it on occasions.
Originally posted by najdorfslayerLet me clarify this game a bit; I have tried this opening occasionally (but recently I stopped playing 1. ..d5 to 1.d4). The gambit seems pretty sound to me. In return for the pawn(s) you get a whole lot of play against white's queenside, a lead in development and play against white's king which is wide open because white's queen and queen's bishop are missing (and sometimes the queen's knight as well). The key move for black is c5 which opens up any Qa5+ possibilities and opens up the center (where the white king still is).
In this game D Tebb played the opening well and got a clear advantage. Bf5 isn't easy to play in the Exchange Variation of the Queens Gambit with Bg5
Hence why I would play 3...Be7 as it is much easier to activate the light squred bishop to this square. Playing for example 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Be7 4.Nf3 Nf6 this stops White playing the Exchange Vari ...[text shortened]... ouse Cup (Yorkshire League), but apparently it is playable, Short has played it on occasions.
White can also play Qxb7 but that's alot of fun for black too, because of Rb8 and Rxb2 which infiltrates in white's camp.
In this game white decided to trade off the queens with 12. dxc5 and go for an ending with an extra pawn, but it was very drawish because black's play against the weak c-pawn and superior piece activity kept white from exploiting his extra pawn.
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Originally posted by schakuhrIf you are comfortable playing that way so be it but I am sure it is not to everybodies taste, and objectively probably not the best for Black
Let me clarify this game a bit; I have tried this opening occasionally (but recently I stopped playing 1. ..d5 to 1.d4). The gambit seems pretty sound to me. In return for the pawn(s) you get a whole lot of play against white's queenside, a lead in development and play against white's king which is wide open because white's queen and queen's bishop are miss t the weak c-pawn and superior piece activity kept white from exploiting his extra pawn.