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Originally posted by hahahaaaaNo the king can't castle.
There is a flip side to this. A king normaly can't castle through a check, but if the piece is pinned, it can. So it is odd that you can't sit your king on a square that would be check if the piece was unpinned. But that is chess and cest la vie.
Originally posted by ValmoreActually, there's no contradition whatsoever. They're both saying the same thing; that by taking the piece, you are moving into check (a place in which the king can be captured) first, which is not allowed; similarly, if you were to look at the game actually ending with the capture of the king, your king would be captured first.
There's a contradiction between those two answers and I think that's really what's upseting Trevor here.
Originally posted by hahahaaaaAre you sure? Chessbase isn't know to make glitches like that. It's possible that (like here) the analysis function lets you move pieces wherever you want, legal or not. There is one other possibility, because it's a rule that (according to a column in Chess Life a while back) that even GMs have been known to get wrong on rare occasions.
Really, I was able to do it under the chessbase database, but I'll take your word for it, maybe it is a glitch.
Originally posted by hahahaaaaWeird. Is this the online database, or one of the actual ChessBase programs? I have ChessBase and have never been able to do this, but I haven't played around with the online database all that much (and can't check right now at work) - I can imagine there being some bugs in that and the programming being not quite as tight. 😛
Yes, I tried it again and it worked. The position I got to was white ready to short castle. Black's rook on f7 was eyeing f1 while it was pinned by a bishop on h5 to the king on e8. The database would not allow me to move my king over one space on the "checked" square, but it would allow me to castle.
Originally posted by hahahaaaaI think the db is set up wrong. Similar to rhp analyses board.
Yes, I tried it again and it worked. The position I got to was white ready to short castle. Black's rook on f7 was eyeing f1 while it was pinned by a bishop on h5 to the king on e8. The database would not allow me to move my king over one space on the "checked" square, but it would allow me to castle.
Originally posted by Sicilian SmaugThrowing rocks continously?
I prefer the image of a rook (or the soldier manning the rook) throwing rocks rather than firing a machine gun. A machine gun is too modern, chess is more medieval, I think so any way.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungYeah, that's a pretty common rule (and any other illegal move would also allow you to claim a win). I've also seen it dealt with in other ways, like making the person take it back, with the other player getting some amount of bonus time (2 minutes is typical, I think) back on the clock.
In the blitz chess I've played, you are allowed to move into check. When you do so, the opponent can take your King and win.
Originally posted by trevor33You have a 1511 rating on redhotpawn, and you don't know the answer yourself? Come now, mate. Away with yourself!
if you have something pinned in front of your opponents king, say a knight and you want to take something with your king but its protected by the piece that can't move can you take it? i know you would be moving into check but if the other piece can't move does it count as check?