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  1. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    18 Jul '07 15:06
    Which 'book' opening sacrifices the most material and what is the logic behind it?

    ... There's that scotch gambit where you give away 2 pawns (the name escapes me).
    ... The traxler can give away quite a bit (up to a queen).
    ... There's a KG line where you give away your knight (morphy played it I think).
    ... A line in the sicilian sacrifices a queen for two pieces (Not used at the pro level).

    Any other awesome gambits?
  2. 18 Jul '07 15:10
    The KG line you are talking about is the muzio gambit. Also the fried liver attack in the 2 knights defense. There is also a line in the Nimzo-Indian where black gives up his queen for 2 pieces and 2 pawns i believe.
  3. Standard member onyx2006
    onyx2007
    18 Jul '07 15:12
    Originally posted by mcreynolds
    The KG line you are talking about is the muzio gambit. Also the fried liver attack in the 2 knights defense. There is also a line in the Nimzo-Indian where black gives up his queen for 2 pieces and 2 pawns i believe.
    any idea what line that is? I used to play the nimzo a lot, but am unaware of it?
  4. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    18 Jul '07 15:17 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by mcreynolds
    The KG line you are talking about is the muzio gambit. Also the fried liver attack in the 2 knights defense. There is also a line in the Nimzo-Indian where black gives up his queen for 2 pieces and 2 pawns i believe.
    In the Kings Indian you have a queen sac in the Samish Variation... tal played it If i remember correctly.

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1139428

    Yah this is the game I was thinking of.
  5. 18 Jul '07 15:21
    Cochrane gambit against the petrov (Nxf7).

    Here's a game in progress featuring the line.
    Game 3755287
  6. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    18 Jul '07 15:25
    Then you have the Ooober Kings gambit

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1242985
  7. 18 Jul '07 15:29
    Originally posted by mcreynolds
    The KG line you are talking about is the muzio gambit. Also the fried liver attack in the 2 knights defense. There is also a line in the Nimzo-Indian where black gives up his queen for 2 pieces and 2 pawns i believe.
    There is also a double muzio.
    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1279061
  8. Subscriber davaniel
    1.Nf3
    18 Jul '07 15:38
    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    The Danish Gambit (1. e4, e5 2. d4, exd4 3. c3, dxc3 4. either Qb3 or Bc4, not sure, with cxb2 and Bxb2) can be very effective, I've won a couple of games with it, but that was usually in games where my opponent didn't have a clue what to do against it. I've lost with it a couple of times against better players as well. It's also quite easy to avoid for black, but the offensive power can be quite amazing.
  9. 18 Jul '07 18:35
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    In the Kings Indian you have a queen sac in the Samish Variation... tal played it If i remember correctly.

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1139428

    Yah this is the game I was thinking of.
    That game was awesome
  10. Subscriber LordofADown
    King of all Hills
    18 Jul '07 19:06
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    In the Kings Indian you have a queen sac in the Samish Variation... tal played it If i remember correctly.

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1139428

    Yah this is the game I was thinking of.
    brilliant
  11. 19 Jul '07 00:09
    Originally posted by onyx2006
    any idea what line that is? I used to play the nimzo a lot, but am unaware of it?
    I'll have to check when I get home next week, it was in Seirawains combinations book, it may not have been the nimzo but i think it was, it involves white pinning the f6 knight, kind of like the trap in the queen's gambit only this time it doesnt win material.
  12. 19 Jul '07 00:44
    In one line of the 2. f4 Caro-Kann, white sacrifices a queen for two minor pieces and huge development.
    1.e4 c6
    2.f4!? d5
    3.Nf3 dxe4
    4.Ng5 Nf6
    5.Bc4?! (this move is fine, because white plans to sacrifice the queen!)

    5...Bg4
    6.Bxf7+ Kd7 (the bishop move seals the sacrifice)
    7.QxB+ NxQ
    8.Be6+ Kc7
    9.BxN (ironically, with good play white can get more then compensation for the queen!)

  13. Standard member Ian709
    In the learning
    19 Jul '07 00:47
    Originally posted by davaniel
    The Danish Gambit (1. e4, e5 2. d4, exd4 3. c3, dxc3 4. either Qb3 or Bc4, not sure, with cxb2 and Bxb2) can be very effective, I've won a couple of games with it, but that was usually in games where my opponent didn't have a clue what to do against it. I've lost with it a couple of times against better players as well. It's also quite easy to avoid for black, but the offensive power can be quite amazing.
    isn't the Danish Gambit refuted? (3. ...d5)
  14. 19 Jul '07 00:51
    Originally posted by Ian709
    isn't the Danish Gambit refuted? (3. ...d5)
    I wouldn't mind playing the white side of 4. exd5 Qxd5 (or something) 5. cxd4.

    White has an IQP but the position isn't terrible.

    Anyways I think a lot of players would grab both pawns and hold on for the ride!
  15. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    19 Jul '07 01:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by yofidawg
    Anyways I think a lot of players would grab both pawns and hold on for the ride!
    The Danish Gambit Accepted is (can be) fun from both sides' perspectives; I agree, most players as black would just gobble the pawns and hold their stomachs, so to speak.

    I think it would be a fun thematic tourney.