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  1. 04 Dec '12 20:15 / 1 edit
    It doesn't even have to be good. I didn't play too well in this game and dropped a piece, but it had an interesting ending. What interesting games have you played?

  2. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    04 Dec '12 20:33 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by chesskid001
    It doesn't even have to be good. I didn't play too well in this game and dropped a piece, but it had an interesting ending.
    Just a quick look at last moves ...

    46 ... Rd8a8 might be better for black ?
  3. Subscriber 64squaresofpain
    The drunk knight
    04 Dec '12 20:42
    Here's a game I wanted to start a thread with earlier today, but for some reason it wouldn't let me...
    and I just checked, and it STILL won't let me start a thread with this pgn showing, even though it will let me post it here... very strange

    Anyway, the interesting part of this game is probably in the mid game, where both the d and e files had rooks/queens facing each other...
    (look at the position after 19 moves)

  4. 04 Dec '12 21:30
    @ 64

    Well played and nice annotations. You seem to understand the game very well. I always hoped this would come with experience, but unfortunately I'm still waiting to see the light.
  5. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    04 Dec '12 21:31
    Black's dark square Bishop ends up on the wrong side of the board.

  6. Subscriber 64squaresofpain
    The drunk knight
    04 Dec '12 22:14
    Originally posted by tvochess
    @ 64

    Well played and nice annotations. You seem to understand the game very well. I always hoped this would come with experience, but unfortunately I'm still waiting to see the light.
    Thanks tv 🙂

    Looking at your profile, you seem to be doing just fine lol,
    a gradual increase over time is what i am aiming to achieve
  7. 04 Dec '12 22:17
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Just a quick look at last moves ...

    46 ... Rd8a8 might be better for black ?
    46...Ra8 47.Kb7, then what? Rf8 48.a8=Q Rxa8 49.Kxa8 g2 50.b7 g1=Q b8=Q+ 1/2-1/2

    or if 47... g2 47.Kxa8 g1=Q 48. b7, and Black will be the one hoping for a draw.
  8. 04 Dec '12 22:21
    Originally posted by 64squaresofpain
    Here's a game I wanted to start a thread with earlier today, but for some reason it wouldn't let me...
    and I just checked, and it STILL won't let me start a thread with this pgn showing, even though it will let me post it here... very strange

    Anyway, the interesting part of this game is probably in the mid game, where both the d and e files had r ...[text shortened]... signing.... honestly what is the point in that lol} 0-1[/pgn]
    In the Sicilian, you usually don't trade off the dark squared Bishop unless it's for white's dark squared bishop, because otherwise your dark squares get very weak (same rule apply for white). That's why I don't like Bxc3+, because even though you double white's pawn, your d6 square looks incredibly weak. White allowed you to trade off his dark squared bishop so it didn't really matter in the end, but just something to remember.
  9. 04 Dec '12 22:22
    The knight that couldn't be taken...

  10. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    04 Dec '12 22:39
    Originally posted by chesskid001
    46...Ra8 47.Kb7, then what? Rf8 48.a8=Q Rxa8 49.Kxa8 g2 50.b7 g1=Q b8=Q+ 1/2-1/2

    or if 47... g2 47.Kxa8 g1=Q 48. b7, and Black will be the one hoping for a draw.
    This is what I was thinking.
    But yes - still a draw.
    [/b]
  11. Subscriber 64squaresofpain
    The drunk knight
    04 Dec '12 22:47
    Originally posted by chesskid001
    In the Sicilian, you usually don't trade off the dark squared Bishop unless it's for white's dark squared bishop, because otherwise your dark squares get very weak (same rule apply for white). That's why I don't like Bxc3+, because even though you double white's pawn, your d6 square looks incredibly weak. White allowed you to trade off his dark squared bishop so it didn't really matter in the end, but just something to remember.
    Yeah, I understand how that is the "usual" case, but I just felt that the doubled pawns provided me compensation.

    And with regards to the weakened d6 square, I guess it's down to perspective,
    as I simply felt I was the aggressor in the game and that d6 was not really imposed upon....
    However on reflection, could you say my move 15 was a mistake, as it left a free pawn on d7 for his Queen to pick up? (i.e. I should have played d5 before Ba6)


    Incidentally, in your game shown, would playing 5. Be3 be considerable? maybe taking the knight afterwards, or would black avoid this with 5... d6 do you think
  12. 04 Dec '12 23:19
    I actually really liked your move 15...Ba6. Pressures the c4 pawn, and Black can't take on d7 because of the e2 Bishop. But I think your dark squared weaknesses really could've come back to bite you. For instance, after 10. e5 Ne4 11.Qd3 Qa5 12. Rc1 12...Nc5 (12...d5 13.exd5, 12...f5 13.f3 and it pretty much transposes) 13.Qd4, and white is really active on the dark squares. I haven't analyzed this position too much in depth, but white has some strong pressure. Maybe black can hold on, but I'd definitely prefer to be in white's shoes than black's

    As for my game, the normal book move is 5.Nxc6. If 5.Be3, maybe Qf6? To avoid annoying doubled isolated e pawns, you couldn't take on c6, so perhaps c3 or something? I don't know, I haven't looked much into that line. But it seems like Black has gotten pretty active, and white has to worry about some sort of Bxe3 stuff if he ever moves his knight.
  13. Subscriber 64squaresofpain
    The drunk knight
    04 Dec '12 23:37
    Originally posted by chesskid001
    I actually really liked your move 15...Ba6. Pressures the c4 pawn, and Black can't take on d7 because of the e2 Bishop. But I think your dark squared weaknesses really could've come back to bite you. For instance, after 10. e5 Ne4 11.Qd3 Qa5 12. Rc1 12...Nc5 (12...d5 13.exd5, 12...f5 13.f3 and it pretty much transposes) 13.Qd4, and white is really active ...[text shortened]... tive, and white has to worry about some sort of Bxe3 stuff if he ever moves his knight.
    Yeah I admit I make moves like that sometimes, trading with a tricky piece (often a knight) that could cause problems.
    It's what I like to call 'removing complications'

    And yeah of course his e2 bishop becomes lost...
    I remember seeing that in the game, just missed it in analysis lol (least it wasn't the other way around huh)
  14. Subscriber 64squaresofpain
    The drunk knight
    04 Dec '12 23:44
    Originally posted by VelvetEars
    The knight that couldn't be taken...

    [pgn]
    [Event "Challenge"]
    [Site "http://www.timeforchess.com"]
    [Date "2011.12.07"]
    [EndDate "2012.01.12"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "VelvetEars"]
    [Black "Razorsharp"]
    [WhiteRating "1783"]
    [BlackRating "1560"]
    [WhiteElo "1783"]
    [BlackElo "1560"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [GameId "8903364"]

    1. d4 b5 2. e4 c6 3. Ng1f3 {T ...[text shortened]... g the king towards mate} Kc8b7 33. Rd1b1 Kb7a8 34. Rb1xb8 1-0
    [/pgn]
    Nice lol I think I would have taken on the 2nd offering... I don't see a reason why not (?)
  15. Standard member cadwah
    ¯\_(^.^)_/¯
    05 Dec '12 02:58
    I don't know why but I just like this one, maybe it's the futility of the ending for white... there was pretty much no way out for white, the bishop was next to useless.