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Originally posted by tharkesh
I wish to add to that the questions, which were not answered to before:

What are the numbers of the best CC players pre-computer time?

What are the numbers for CC players that have studied and analyzed their games with help of engines?


People keep saying, this line has never been reached / barely reached / has only come close to a few times...
At least I got an ad hominem attack or two out of my questions... so it's not a total bust.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
At least I got an ad hominem attack or two out of my questions... so it's not a total bust.
yeah, my hate mob even left me...

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Originally posted by mikelom
I WAS a design manager at various companies in the automotive design market.

We had benchmarks too........ Jaguar has benchmarks, BMW has benchmarks, BENZ, Lexus....... blah blah.

They find a way to out class each other year by year in unforseen ways...... that's benchmarking for you.

What was your benchmark of hundreds of hours set against?
Autom nager potential, if at best... not the real world benchmarker of the real stage.

-m. 😉
Are you aware of just how much testing has been done with Batch Analyzer over the last 4 or 5 years?
Apart from the game mods here, a group of 12 members of chess.com have been thrashing Hell out of it for the best part of a couple of years.
A statistician who was extremely sceptical, called Gerd Hubner, actually ended up 100% behind the project & actually created & published his own version:
http://www.chess.com/download/view/chessanalyse-26

The thresholds for all benchmarks stand - be it for Berliner spending a week on each move then sending it in to the CC World Championships in 1964/65 or Carlsen playing a few months ago with the aid of opening/middlegame prep using engines.

It would be a different story if we had Kasparov playing CC here - he might well better the thresholds - but 95% of the top 1% highest rated here are no-names, with no checkable credentials at all.

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Originally posted by Zygalski
Are you aware of just how much testing has been done with Batch Analyzer over the last 4 or 5 years?
Apart from the game mods here, a group of 12 members of chess.com have been thrashing Hell out of it for the best part of a couple of years.
A statistician who was extremely sceptical, called Gerd Hubner, actually ended up 100% behind the project & actuall ...[text shortened]... s - but 95% of the top 1% highest rated here are no-names, with no checkable credentials at all.
{ Top 1 Match: ?%
{ Top 2 Match: ?%
{ Top 3 Match: ?%
{ Top 4 Match: ?%

So what are the numbers required to be a cheat?

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Originally posted by Zygalski
Are you aware of just how much testing has been done with Batch Analyzer over the last 4 or 5 years?
Apart from the game mods here, a group of 12 members of chess.com have been thrashing Hell out of it for the best part of a couple of years.
A statistician who was extremely sceptical, called Gerd Hubner, actually ended up 100% behind the project & actuall ...[text shortened]... s - but 95% of the top 1% highest rated here are no-names, with no checkable credentials at all.
Do you allow for the fact that players on here have many hours, sometimes days, to analyse every move..a luxury that tournament players do not have ?

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Hi WW.

I was told two years ago who she was.

Her grade, name and everything apparently checked out.

Some new 'facts' (new to me anyway) are just coming to light.

Not the old XanthosNZ claims which are being re-hashed and polished up.

So relax, I have my top men on both jobs.

Mr X: He's brilliant at hunting and rooting out and has ID'd many on here.
And No1 on the numbers.

So some good has come from this thread.
A top cheat hunter (No1) has been brought out of semi-reitirement and the other
lad (who for obvious reasons must remain unknown.) is back in the real ID. game.
These two I'll go along with.

Zyglo (or what ever his name is) is good but I think his kit is far too powerful.
Given 20 games he could catch God cheating. 🙂

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Originally posted by Zygalski

The thresholds for all benchmarks stand - be it for Berliner spending a week on each move then sending it in to the CC World Championships in 1964/65 or Carlsen playing a few months ago with the aid of opening/middlegame prep using engines.
Interesting to know...

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
Hi WW.

I was told two years ago who she was.

Her grade, name and everything apparently checked out.
I don't know who you're listening, but you have the wrong name, and it doesn't check out. neither on FIDE nor her national chess federation.

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Short of naming names and getting a 2 year forum ban you had
better PM me who you think she is. And hopefully given time I tell
you who she really is.

I'll PM you.

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" I made a point of saying that I had little interest in following what Skeeter said or did. "

Why are you here?

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
" I made a point of saying that I had little interest in following what Skeeter said or did. "

Why are you here?
you know very well that skeeter threads actually are about skeeter as much as about popcorn...



"I am irritated, however, by the common low level of reading comprehension at RHP."

So why are you here? 🙂

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