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Solution to the Petroff?

Solution to the Petroff?

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e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nxe5 d6 Nxf7 Kxf7 Bc4+... as far as i can tell white has a winning game...anyone have any opinions?

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Originally posted by knapster
e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nxe5 d6 Nxf7 Kxf7 Bc4+... as far as i can tell white has a winning game...anyone have any opinions?
what about 5...d5 and after a few checks the attack should be over with good defense. Or 2...Qe7 knight retreats, new plan.😉

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Originally posted by knapster
e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nxe5 d6 Nxf7 Kxf7 Bc4+... as far as i can tell white has a winning game...anyone have any opinions?
White is far from winning at this point. Moreover Bc4+ even is not the best follow-up, d4 is stronger. Cohrane is fun anyway!🙂

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Originally posted by knapster
e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nxe5 d6 Nxf7 Kxf7 Bc4+... as far as i can tell white has a winning game...anyone have any opinions?
As far as I can tell, black is a piece up. Maybe I should take up the Petroff 🙂

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This may surprise you guys, but I have a complete book titled "A startling opening reperatoire", and the whole point of the book is to suggest unorthodox ways for white to win playing e4. It's written by GM E.Lasker apparently, although I doubt that. It is a boring book mind you, just a lot of games to analyze, argh.

It suggests this knight sack theory against the Petroff, the idea is to give up a knight, for two pawns, prevent the king from castling, and lead in development. Call it a very advanced gambit concept, except of a pawn gambit, it's a peice gambit! But it's essentially the same as any gambit, a gambit involves giving up a 1 point in material when accepted, this gambit is the same 1 point of material given up, except it's forced to acceptance.

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I ran it through Fritz 8 (admittedly on 10 min time control, and only once), but black won...for what it's worth

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Originally posted by BLReid
I ran it through Fritz 8 (admittedly on 10 min time control, and only once), but black won...for what it's worth
I don't think that Cochrane gambit is much more unsound, than say KG. With best play black probably has slightly better chances (probably not). And it is not easy to defend against.

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Heres a better solution to the petroff, DONT play e4, hes a little cutie the e pawn but d and c like a dance 2. 🙄🙄🙄

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Toymauzer is right. d4 is a better follow up move after sacking the knight. The e pawn can't be touched by black, of course. Named after the Scottish master John Cochrane (1798-1878) of the last century:
Chronology 1821 Visited Paris where he was beaten by Deschapelles and Bourdonnais
1822 Published A Treatise on the Game of Chess. Joined the bar.
1824 Played on the London team in a correspondence chess match against Edinburgh. Made the Scotch Gambit fashionable. (get it?)
1841-3 Played hundreds of casual games with Howard Staunton

Also, he was a second lieutenant on the ship Bellerophon that transported Napoleon to his last exile in Helena. And you thought chess players were boring.



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