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Speed vs. Accuracy in tactics practice

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Originally posted by heinzkat
Yes, I bet on two horses, making both my rating and accuracy higher. Not that it matters that much, it's mainly about the ideas you "absorb" from working through the positions, but it's good to improve the numbers. (1861 now with 63.4%, working through the positions on about 80% accuracy as said in the previous post)
yeah, all training is good. -I've been slacking on tactics, and it's beginning to show. lots of moves recently which I didn't even look at...

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Originally posted by exigentsky
If it's true that not all GMs reach that level, it suggests that the relationship between CTS and chess strength is unclear or variable. Perhaps after a certain level it no longer matters or it doesn't correlate to chess strength. It's hard to say without data but I've always felt it was helping me.
Wrong. Have you seen the chess that Nakamura or Anand plays at lighting time controls? That is amazingly deep stuff.

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Originally posted by Jie
Wrong. Have you seen the chess that Nakamura or Anand plays at lighting time controls? That is amazingly deep stuff.
Have you even read the post?

BTW: Yes, of course Nakamura and Anand play well just by instinct.

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Originally posted by exigentsky
Have you even read the post?

BTW: Yes, of course Nakamura and Anand play well just by instinct.
I've never seen anand blitz, but nakamura is just incredible. the difference between him and a 'regular' GM in blitz is just huge, even though in slow game they're roughly equal. still, nakamura did only 1850 on CTS, and that was with a bad accuracy (65% ).

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Originally posted by diskamyl
I'm in the mood to bet. Here it goes, heinzkat, I beat you could not make 1300 with 99% 😛
BUMP!

Exactly after 400 positions on a new account: rating 1550 - accuracy 99.8 % (you may calculcate how many wrong that is)

:-)

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Originally posted by heinzkat
BUMP!

Exactly after 400 positions on a new account: rating 1550 - accuracy 99.8 % (you may calculcate how many wrong that is)

:-)
nice work!

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Originally posted by heinzkat
BUMP!

Exactly after 400 positions on a new account: rating 1550 - accuracy 99.8 % (you may calculcate how many wrong that is)

:-)
that's a great result. For the record, I was seriously thinking you wouldn't be able to do it (1300 rating with 99% accuracy). and you have surpassed it by a huge amount.

as a conclusion, I have already began questioning my plans about getting to 2000 (not in CTS, in either RHP or FICS) in 3 years. 🙂

probably I'm really a slow person. Not slow as in being an idiot, but really, I'm slow at chess (my standard rating in FICS is 1700, and my blitz rating is 1140), I'm slow at reading (which I do a lot), slow at studying (not a lot🙂), slow at driving, slow at watching movies (while watching dvds, I repeat so many scenes), I don't know, I'm just slow. damn!

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Originally posted by diskamyl
that's a great result. For the record, I was seriously thinking you wouldn't be able to do it (1300 rating with 99% accuracy). and you have surpassed it by a huge amount.

as a conclusion, I have already began questioning my plans about getting to 2000 (not in CTS, in either RHP or FICS) in 3 years. 🙂

probably I'm really a slow person. Not slow as in movies (while watching dvds, I repeat so many scenes), I don't know, I'm just slow. damn!
Yes, I hadn't expected to get all of them either, even with 1000 rated problems all the time.

Although, I just messed up on another problem (435/437). The first I did incorrectly was a 1300, the other 1400. :-(

Somehow both had pretty strong seductions in the position, that even with double-checking I thought the moves I played were OK enough to complete the problem with.

edit: perhaps I shouldn't have tried today (57/59 instead of 399/400 yesterday), a bit too unsharp somehow to really look well at the positions. Still, these easiest problems are really too easy.



White to move.

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Originally posted by heinzkat
Yes, I hadn't expected to get all of them either, even with 1000 rated problems all the time.

Although, I just messed up on another problem (435/437). The first I did incorrectly was a 1300, the other 1400. :-(

Somehow both had pretty strong seductions in the position, that even with double-checking I thought the moves I played were OK enough to com ...[text shortened]... sy[/i].

[fen]3r1rk1/4nppp/1q2p3/ppN5/3nP3/P7/1P3QPP/1B1R1R1K w - -[/fen]

White to move.
over a longer period, like a week or so, you'll always hit those absolutely catastrophic days when you can't seem to get anything right. two, three even four in a row wrong. at that point the best advice is to stop the session. -of course you don't, and it gets even worse until you finally do stop...

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Originally posted by xnomanx
I haven't played much over the last few months...needless to say I've plateaued or taken a bit of a drop (Hmmm...I suppose I can't get better without playing much- go figure!).
So I'm trying to sort of start over right now; back to basics, back to the books, more slow OTB (I really have to kick an OTB blitz addiction that I think is seriously creating/reinf ...[text shortened]... lly if my focus is increasing my slow OTB abilities, not blitz.

Any thoughts on this?
You need both. You have to be able to spot tactics without much time for thought. I think speed and accuracy are inseperable. What good is it in a real game if you take all your time to find a tactic?

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Originally posted by heinzkat
Yes, I hadn't expected to get all of them either, even with 1000 rated problems all the time.

Although, I just messed up on another problem (435/437). The first I did incorrectly was a 1300, the other 1400. :-(

Somehow both had pretty strong seductions in the position, that even with double-checking I thought the moves I played were OK enough to com ...[text shortened]... sy[/i].

[fen]3r1rk1/4nppp/1q2p3/ppN5/3nP3/P7/1P3QPP/1B1R1R1K w - -[/fen]

White to move.
is it Rxd4 Rxd4 Nxe6?

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Originally posted by diskamyl
is it Rxd4 Rxd4 Nxe6?
No, the problem goes 1. Rxd4 Qxc5 2. ...

On problem no. 773 I stumbled for the fourth time:



White to move.

But fortunately I managed to get to position 800 with 796/800 - making it 99.5% again - but I wasn't able to break 1600 yet (am a bit too slow somehow). Perhaps later today, have to go now.

I agree with Ice Cold - you need to be able to spot tactics (especially the "simple" ones) without effort. But with "what good is it in a real game if you take all your time to find a tactic?" I think I slightly disagree - in a tactically suspect position, you may take a bit of a "time-out" to calculate it out. If your tactical nose is not strong enough (i.e. there is nothing possible) or the suspect position just happens not to allow the intended tactical finesses, you might bite to dust then and lose a bit of time, but in the same time you have understood a bit more of the position you are dealing with and might play a preparing/reinforcing move for the tactical blow (prophylaxis). Sometimes such preparing moves are rubbish though, always keep in mind the actual position on the board!

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It shouldn't be speed vs. accuracy, it should be speed and accuracy. That's best.

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A nice position from the Chess Tactics Server:



White plays 1. h4, 2. f3 and 3. e4 and meanwhile you have to defend Black's King!

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Originally posted by heinzkat
To get served the highest rated problems (2291 is the highest) your CTS rating has to be 1950+. I've never even been close to being close to that. What to do to get there?
Bump. Finally reached it :-)