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  1. 25 Jul '06 19:40
    Is this book any good? :
    "Standard Chess Openings" by Eric Schiller, 1998Cardoza
    Publishing, English Algebraic Notation, Softcover, 756pp., $24.95
  2. 25 Jul '06 19:49
    http://www.chesscafe.com/text/standco.txt
  3. 25 Jul '06 20:26
    Originally posted by Sicilian Smaug
    Hmm,by Eric Schiller.. I havn't read the book or even laid eyes on it but I don't like anything I've read by Eric Schiller. There's far better chess authors.
    who would you recommend?
  4. 25 Jul '06 20:39
    Originally posted by TainoBrotha
    Is this book any good? :
    "Standard Chess Openings" by Eric Schiller, 1998Cardoza
    Publishing, English Algebraic Notation, Softcover, 756pp., $24.95
    OH NOES!Put the book down and slowly back away!
    Sadly I own that book,I use it to keep my door from slamming shut.Was gonna sell it on ebay but couldn't bring myself to do something so terrible to another human being.
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    25 Jul '06 20:49
    I think Schiller got busted once for engine use on ICC. That guy is a jackass.
  6. 25 Jul '06 23:05
    OMG horrible.
  7. 25 Jul '06 23:57
    Meh,Judith Polgar got caught using an engine as well.Can't remember what site it was....
  8. 26 Jul '06 00:25
    I am also ashamed to admit I am the sad owner of this book. It claims "More than 3,000 Opening Strategies Inside!". When I was finished with this book, I had made over 3,000 corrections (written in the book by myself, some of which I had to add extra sheets of paper to compensate for the lack of open space where I could correct the thousands of mistakes!) and I am simply disgusted with this trash. There are a few cases in which Schiller misses mates in 1!!! Some diagrams show the wrong positions, there are mistakes in the notation (ie. Bg4 when there is a piece on d7 and the bishop is on c8), and the annotations are sloppy and obviously just thrown together in order to try and lure beginners into buying the book as a reference because of it's mammoth size. If there ever was a patzer, Eric Schiller is it.
  9. 26 Jul '06 13:59
    Originally posted by aenrko
    If there ever was a patzer, Eric Schiller is it.
    I don't think you can justifiably call someone a patzer who's rated 2200 FIDE. That's about the same as Dan Heisman's rating. But the difference between these two people is that Heisman puts a lot of effort into his writings, while Schiller doesn't. Schiller just cranks out potboilers and datadumps and calls them books.

    But I agree with everyone here that, as a general guideline, you're best to stay away from anything with Schiller's name on it.

    BTW, on a different note, various sources on the internet report that Schiller recently had a stroke. I do hope that he has a speedy recovery.
  10. 26 Jul '06 14:10
    Originally posted by TainoBrotha
    Is this book any good? :
    "Standard Chess Openings" by Eric Schiller, 1998Cardoza
    Publishing, English Algebraic Notation, Softcover, 756pp., $24.95
    Winning Chess Openings is a great book if you need to learn about openings.

    It shows the major openings and the major lines to them as well as variations.
  11. 26 Jul '06 16:10
    Originally posted by Gorgar
    Meh,Judith Polgar got caught using an engine as well.Can't remember what site it was....
    I "googled" Judith Polgar and didn't find anything on her using a chess engine. Where did you get this info?
  12. 26 Jul '06 20:31
    Originally posted by Mad Rook
    I don't think you can justifiably call someone a patzer who's rated 2200 FIDE. That's about the same as Dan Heisman's rating. But the difference between these two people is that Heisman puts a lot of effort into his writings, while Schiller doesn't. Schiller just cranks out potboilers and datadumps and calls them books.

    But I agree with everyone here tha ...[text shortened]... rnet report that Schiller recently had a stroke. I do hope that he has a speedy recovery.
    Anyone who misses mates in one is a patzer in my book. I could care less what his FIDE rating is.
  13. 26 Jul '06 21:26 / 1 edit
    If you want a good laugh, check out the late Tony Miles' detailed review of Schiller's book titled "Unorthodox Chess Openings".

    http://www.chesscenter.com/kingpin/Kingpin/book_reviews.htm#Unorthodox
  14. 26 Jul '06 22:03
    Originally posted by TainoBrotha
    I "googled" Judith Polgar and didn't find anything on her using a chess engine. Where did you get this info?
    On a site maintained by a former ICC speedtrap member,equivalent to cheatpolice on this site,where he explains some methods to spot engine use.She admitted the use too,no doubt about it.
    I'll try to find that site again been a few years since I stumbled upon it.
  15. 26 Jul '06 23:51
    Originally posted by Gorgar
    On a site maintained by a former ICC speedtrap member,equivalent to cheatpolice on this site,where he explains some methods to spot engine use.She admitted the use too,no doubt about it.
    I'll try to find that site again been a few years since I stumbled upon it.
    Well,I think I found the site and I also think my memory played a nasty trick on me

    http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Realm/8655/ENGLISH/Part3_ENG.htm#Top
    I think that's where I read it but she didn't cheat,it's just that her name is in the last line right above a cheating confession on ICC.I'm guessing through the years my memory linked those 2 together,heh

    My apologies for slandering miss Polgar's good name.