The Chess Master and the Computer

Interesting article by Garry Kasparov, just published in the New York Times.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/23592

Originally posted by rbmorris
Interesting article by Garry Kasparov, just published in the New York Times.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/23592

Great article! Keep 'em coming.

Originally posted by rbmorris
Interesting article by Garry Kasparov, just published in the New York Times.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/23592

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Garry Kasparov The Chess Master and the Computer
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The heavy use of computer analysis has pushed the game itself in new directions.
The machine doesn't care about style or patterns or hundreds of years of established theory.
It counts up the values of the chess pieces, analyzes a few
billion moves, and counts them up again. (A computer translates each piece and each
positional factor into a value in order to reduce the game to numbers it can crunch.)
It is entirely free of prejudice and doctrine and this has contributed to the
development of players who are almost as free of dogma as the machines with which
they train. Increasingly, a move isn't good or bad because it looks that way or
because it hasn't been done that way before. It's simply good if it works and bad if it
doesn't. Although we still require a strong measure of intuition and logic to play well,
humans today are starting to play more like computers.

Very much worth reading.


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Originally posted by Nowakowski
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Garry Kasparov The Chess Master and the Computer
2:2
The heavy use of computer analysis has pushed the game itself in new directions.
The machine doesn't care about style or patterns or hundreds of years of established theory. It counts up the values of the chess pieces, analyzes a few
billion moves, and counts them up again. (A ...[text shortened]... re starting to play more like computers.

Very much worth reading.


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I just purchased IM John Watson's "Secrets of Modern Chess Strategy" and "Modern Chess Strategy In Action", which discuss and promote this very idea. Very compelling!

Originally posted by Nowakowski
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Garry Kasparov The Chess Master and the Computer
2:2
The heavy use of computer analysis has pushed the game itself in new directions.
The machine doesn't care about style or patterns or hundreds of years of established theory.
It counts up the values of the chess pieces, analyzes a few
billion moves, and counts them up again. ( ...[text shortened]... re starting to play more like computers.

Very much worth reading.


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ALL UR MOV35 R BELNG 2 U5

Originally posted by Ice Cold
ALL UR MOV35 R BELNG 2 U5

Make your time.

Originally posted by rbmorris
Interesting article by Garry Kasparov, just published in the New York Times.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/23592

Very interesting article, thanks for the tip-off.

If Kasparov actually wrote any of that I'll eat my (and anybody else's) computer - it doesn't read like his voice at all and I just don't believe he knows all that stuff. Still, that doesn't stop it being fascinating.

Was the specific reference to an online chess site really necessary? Does that help us with who the actual author was.

Originally posted by JonathanB of London
Very interesting article, thanks for the tip-off.

If Kasparov actually wrote any of that I'll eat my (and anybody else's) computer - it doesn't read like his voice at all and I just don't believe he knows all that stuff. Still, that doesn't stop it being fascinating.

Was the specific reference to an online chess site really necessary? Does that help us with who the actual author was.

Get ready to swallow:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/22/gary-kasparov-on-chess-me_n_432043.html

http://myprops.org/content/Garry-Kasparov-On-Chess-Metaphors-The-Chess-Master-And-The-Computer/

http://www.silobreaker.com/garry-kasparov-11_995085

(where you can see multiple links to the article - hosted on multiple sites)


Seems to me, that even when you search Google for "Kasparov on Chess Metaphors"
you'll find this article, over, and over, and over again...always written by the same
ex World Champion.

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Didnt GK get beat by Deep Blue?

Originally posted by Jason Harrison
Didnt GK get beat by Deep Blue?

yes under mysterious circumstances, computers making human style moves etc

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes under mysterious circumstances, computers making human style moves etc

A Grandmaster was sat overseeing Deep Blue allegedly? IBM would never surrender the data sheets....

Originally posted by Phlabibit
Make your time.

GG

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes under mysterious circumstances, computers making human style moves etc

He freaked out because the computer refused the sacrifice he offered, something that was unusual at the time. The same so called human moves are found by today's computers. He was just an embarassed sore loser.

Originally posted by Maxacre42
He freaked out because the computer refused the sacrifice he offered, something that was unusual at the time. The same so called human moves are found by today's computers. He was just an embarassed sore loser.

yes he freaked out, wouldn't you! here the machine is a greedy materialist and it refuses your material? and as Jason states, they never released the data sheets and ol Joel Benjamin overseeing everything, mmm, vewy vewy intewesting Mr.Bond!