21 Jun 06
I've been having some trouble with this opening, mostly in fun games at home but in some tournaments as well. As white I often lack the push to gain a lead or the positional +s to eventually force one also.
As black, I find my self dumbfounded what to play, often just forcing a queens gambit declined with
1. c4 e6
2. d4 d5
hopefully somone can give me some adivce for what white should do to gain and maintain a lead or equality (game examples would be nice) and some examples of what black should do also.
21 Jun 06
Originally posted by e4masterHi I don't play this line but the best thing to do is follow an opening tree or look in db's to see what masters are playing.
I've been having some trouble with this opening, mostly in fun games at home but in some tournaments as well. As white I often lack the push to gain a lead or the positional +s to eventually force one also.
As black, I find my self dumbfounded what to play, often just forcing a queens gambit declined with
1. c4 e6
2. d4 d5
hopefully somone can ...[text shortened]... lead or equality (game examples would be nice) and some examples of what black should do also.
Here's a small opening tree which goes several moves deep:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/explorer?node=75974&move=3&moves=c4.e6.d4.d5&nodes=2.76488.75541.75974
22 Jun 06
well you two have been useless. First and foremost i know databases exsist, and they have the English in them, but I don't care about the moves or who is playing what. I want to know ideas towards the midgame that arise out of this opening.
Secondly, I know there have been threads in the past, I just cant find them
22 Jun 06
Originally posted by e4masterYes, the search capabilities in this forum are terrible. However, the english is all about control of d5/d4 in most lines. The problem is that there are so many differnt lines that I can't possibly give you a useful canned response. Clearly I don't play the same with a botvinik formation as I do when my opponent plays the Rubinstein or Keres-Parma. There have been whole books written just the symetric variations.
well you two have been useless. First and foremost i know databases exsist, and they have the English in them, but I don't care about the moves or who is playing what. I want to know ideas towards the midgame that arise out of this opening.
Secondly, I know there have been threads in the past, I just cant find them
22 Jun 06
Originally posted by e4masterWell that's the type of response that makes me want to help you!
well you two have been useless. First and foremost i know databases exsist, and they have the English in them, but I don't care about the moves or who is playing what. I want to know ideas towards the midgame that arise out of this opening.
Secondly, I know there have been threads in the past, I just cant find them
22 Jun 06
Originally posted by e4masteri did some looking at the book openings. you could use a Caro-Kann (1 d4 c6) defense with black. you could also use an Indian type system (1 d4 f6) plus a c6 on your next move. Then your play would be for a counter attack on the center to free your game the way those two opening want to do.
I've been having some trouble with this opening, mostly in fun games at home but in some tournaments as well. As white I often lack the push to gain a lead or the positional +s to eventually force one also.
As black, I find my self dumbfounded what to play, often just forcing a queens gambit declined with
1. c4 e6
2. d4 d5
hopefully somone can ...[text shortened]... lead or equality (game examples would be nice) and some examples of what black should do also.
it appears the English leads itself to transpose into other openings. maybe you could use that fact to your advantage.
22 Jun 06
Originally posted by SoliTearhmmmmm ill look into that
i did some looking at the book openings. you could use a Caro-Kann (1 d4 c6) defense with black. you could also use an Indian type system (1 d4 f6) plus a c6 on your next move. Then your play would be for a counter attack on the center to free your game the way those two opening want to do.
it appears the English leads itself to transpose into other openings. maybe you could use that fact to your advantage.