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    09 Dec '09 22:54
    Another kind of puzzle i like :



    White to play

    ( The problem is not that great in itself, it's more the thematic that i like ! (thematic : i wonder if that word is correct here?))
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    09 Dec '09 23:192 edits
    Originally posted by Ajuin
    😲 you gave a clou!
    OMG, I can't believe I did that. 😲😵

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    not like it was terribly hard to see, esp. if you can see 2.e6
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    09 Dec '09 23:22
    Originally posted by shorbock
    Another kind of puzzle i like :

    [fen]r2qkb1r/ppp1pppp/8/3Pn3/6b1/2P2N2/P1P2PPP/R1BQKB1R[/fen]

    White to play

    ( The problem is not that great in itself, it's more the thematic that i like ! (thematic : i wonder if that word is correct here?))
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    1.Nx Bx 2.B+ c6 3.dc! pwnage
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    10 Dec '09 00:021 edit
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    [hidden]1.Nx Bx 2.B+ c6 3.dc! pwnage[/hidden]
    Well i'm afraid you're the one that got pawn'd !

    the solution is ...
    1.Be2! with an even game (i never said "white to play and win" 😉 )

    this is the reason why i like this puzzle 😉 you're almost certain to trick even a very strong player with that !

    In fact it's much harder than apparently complex queen sacrifices...because it's a psychological trick !

    Didn't you think it was just a little bit too obvious?


    1.Nxe5? is just too tempting and topical to resist (i got tricked too, of course)
    Bxd1 2.Bb5+ c6 3.dxc6 Be2!! 4.Kxe2? (a bit better : c7+) Qd5! 5.c4 (the point of Be2 is 5.cxb7? now loses to Qb5+) Qxe5+ 6.Be3 000! 7.cxb7+ Kb8 8.Kf3 Qf5+ 0-1, was the end of the game Goldenberg - Chevaldonnet, 1982
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    10 Dec '09 00:32
    Originally posted by shorbock
    Well i'm afraid you're the one that got pawn'd !

    the solution is ...
    [b]1.Be2!
    with an even game (i never said "white to play and win" 😉 )

    this is the reason why i like this puzzle 😉 you're almost certain to trick even a very strong player with that !

    In fact it's much harder than apparently complex queen sacrifices...because it's a psychol ...[text shortened]... 00! 7.cxb7+ Kb8 8.Kf3 Qf5+ 0-1, was the end of the game Goldenberg - Chevaldonnet, 1982[/b]
    3...Be2!! is indeed an impressive rejoinder, but you conveniently failed to mention that 4.c7+ is not just 'a bit better' - it's the only move!

    4.c7+ Bx 5.cd Rd8 6.Be3 and we have:


    White has a slight positional disadvantage, but is he really losing? I think not. If not, 1.Nxe5 only deserves ?!
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    10 Dec '09 01:02
    Originally posted by shorbock
    Well i'm afraid you're the one that got pawn'd !

    the solution is ...
    [b]1.Be2!
    with an even game (i never said "white to play and win" 😉 )

    this is the reason why i like this puzzle 😉 you're almost certain to trick even a very strong player with that !

    In fact it's much harder than apparently complex queen sacrifices...because it's a psychol ...[text shortened]... 00! 7.cxb7+ Kb8 8.Kf3 Qf5+ 0-1, was the end of the game Goldenberg - Chevaldonnet, 1982[/b]
    Another problem with "puzzles" like this one: Can you really say that 1.Bf4 is not a solution?
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    10 Dec '09 17:57
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Another problem with "puzzles" like this one: Can you really say that 1.Bf4 is not a solution?
    Well, that's great for composed problems, but for tactical puzzles, I fail to see why there should be only one move leading to an advantage 🙄
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    10 Dec '09 18:45
    Originally posted by heinzkat
    Well, that's great for composed problems, but for tactical puzzles, I fail to see why there should be only one move leading to an advantage 🙄
    What took you so long? 😵

    In this puzzle, there are no moves leading to an advantage. Applied quote rejected.
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    10 Dec '09 18:54
    I don't know about you but after 3...Be2 4. Nd3 I still like White's position

    By the way the solution spends far more time on the non-solution than on the actual solution 😛
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    10 Dec '09 19:16
    Originally posted by heinzkat
    I don't know about you but after 3...Be2 4. Nd3 I still like White's position

    By the way the solution spends far more time on the non-solution than on the actual solution 😛
    What do you do against 4...Bg4?

    Tries are OK [i.e., spending time on non-solutions], but the main solution shouldn't suck.
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    10 Dec '09 19:23
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    What do you do against 4...Bg4?
    Just c7+
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    10 Dec '09 19:31
    Originally posted by heinzkat
    Just c7+
    After you win the Queen back, doesn't white eventually lose the Pc7? Then you have the same doubled-isolated pawns that I had with 4.c7+.

    At least you make Black work harder for it.
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    13 Dec '09 22:04
    Here's another I really liked.Black just captured white's rook on f7.

    White to play and mate in 5
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    13 Dec '09 22:18
    Originally posted by heinzkat
    [hidden]Kn. to R6 ch[/hidden]
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    Yes!Showing of our knowledge of descriptive,are we?
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