04 Aug 05
Originally posted by fexkornNot the same Gardner I'm thinking of, obviously. I think the term "candidate master" is a loose term for a player who once acheived a master rating, then lost it. The rules state you should never lose the master title once you get it, but to be politicly correct, if you lose the 2200 plus rating they call you a candidate master, perhabs?
Gardner is a "39 year old candidate master from Budapest"....
what is a "candidate master?"
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Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowed'Candidate Master' was an old term (not often used nowadays) for young players who had ratings a little below the 2200 level, which is usually regarded as being 'Master' level. From what I remember, Candidate Master standard was about 2000 Elo. But I agree that it was a loose term, and don't think it was ever an official title.
Not the same Gardner I'm thinking of, obviously. I think the term "candidate master" is a loose term for a player who once acheived a master rating, then lost it. The rules state you should never lose the master title once you ge ...[text shortened]... se the 2200 plus rating they call you a candidate master, perhabs?
Also the term 'Master' is fairly casual. It's often used as a convenient label for strong players, and is not much different from 'Expert' or 'Chess Consultant'.
The only titles which are worth anything are 'International Master' and 'Grandmaster'. But to get them you have to be rated over 2400 (for the IM title) or 2500 (GM) and achieve very high performances ('norms'😉 in at least 3 internationally recognised tournaments.
05 Aug 05
Originally posted by David TebbI don't know if this is true, but someone who knows a lot about chess (not a good rating, only 1800, but this guy knows A LOT about the subject, he just calculates bad), said that you could technicly get an IM title being rated lower then 2400 if you arrive top 3 in a major international tournament. Not sure if this is true, it would be hard to prove, because if you arrive top 3 in a big international tournament, your rating would like propel over 2400 anyways, but he claims, technicly, if a 1500 rated player won top 3 in an international tourney, then got a rating of say, 2000, after the tourney, he would become an IM. The guy seems to find a little of little quirks like this in TD rules, and he has been a TD many times, heck, one time one of his little quirks screwed me over in a tourney, and it kinda pissed me off, lol...
'Candidate Master' was an old term (not often used nowadays) for young players who had ratings a little below the 2200 level, which is usually regarded as being 'Master' level. From what I remember, Candidate Master standard was about 2000 Elo. But I agree that it was a loose term, and don't think it was ever an official title.
Also the term 'M ...[text shortened]... ieve very high performances ('norms'😉 in at least 3 internationally recognised tournaments.
I didn't play chess for 10 years, I thought I didn't have a rating anymore, so I claimed to be unrated, later, he found my rating was still there and had to DQ me from prize money for my rating category. I was kinda angry about that, they should query a person who states they are unrated if they ever played chess before as a child, because a few scholastic tournies as a child 10 years ago messed me up.
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Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowedI've just looked this up on the Fide website:
I don't know if this is true, but someone who knows a lot about chess (not a good rating, only 1800, but this guy knows A LOT about the subject, he just calculates bad), said that you could technicly get an IM title being rated low ...[text shortened]... se a few scholastic tournies as a child 10 years ago messed me up.
http://fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=B0101
To qualify for an IM title, a player must have a Fide rating of at least 2400 at some point in time, but it doesn't matter if he subsequently slips below 2400. The hard part is meeting all the other requirements, such as gaining 3 norms in tournaments with sufficiently strong opponents.