Regarding the Immortal game, I find it interesting how incredibly fast and aggressive both the players are. By modern standards, both players seem to over extend too quickly, but they do a good job (esp white) of attacking with multiple pieces.
Does anyone know why black plays 4...b5? It appears he wanted to pull the white bishop over, but why? To protect f7?
Originally posted by caffienexWhich moves in particular do you think were questionable in the Immortal Game?
BiggDoggProblem: I'm refering to the first game BTW. Two instances of poor positional play: overextension as mentioned, and opening the king side prematurely.
Ralla88: As soon as I get a free game you're on.
Originally posted by Archaeopteryx4...b5 was probably played with the intent to later play c6 with a tempo, yet it does seem that black would get little compensation for the pawn (eventual control of the d5 square?)
Regarding the Immortal game, I find it interesting how incredibly fast and aggressive both the players are. By modern standards, both players seem to over extend too quickly, but they do a good job (esp white) of attacking with multiple pieces.
Does anyone know why black plays 4...b5? It appears he wanted to pull the white bishop over, but why? To protect f7?
10...cxb5 probably would have been better
20...Ba6! saves black, but I do not know the following lines.
After 21. Nxg7+ Kd8 what would follow?
(Edit: Looking at Crafty's chessgames.com analysis... 20...Ba6! 21.Nc7+ Kd8 22.Nxa6 Qc3 23. Bc7+ Qxc7);(eval -0.44; depth 12 ply; 5000M nodes)...not sure how good computer analysis is here though...
a little history..
4...b5 was a hot item back then. at this time the romantic style of play (fast attacks without development) was becoming obsolete. so many players went too far the other direction by sacrificing material for small compensation like a tempo or a glimmer of initiative. the grandmasters didnt know what we do today, but its still safe to play they understood the game better than anyone posting at this forum. yes even caffienix (or w/e his name is).
Originally posted by Yugab5 followed by c3 (with tempo) and d4 is the main idea of the Evans gambit which even Kasparov trotted out a time or two (although against inferior competition).
4...b5 was probably played with the intent to later play c6 with a tempo, yet it does seem that black would get little compensation for the pawn (eventual control of the d5 square?).
Originally posted by caffienexHmmm... Well, it's funny that you say that. You have one every single game you've played on RHP, and you aren't a regular member on here... So, your successes thus far do look a bit suspicious. But, who knows? Maybe, you're Karpov hidden behind a name, but I doubt it!
I have just started playing here friend, you shouldn't underestimate me.
BiggDoggProblem: You're a newb if you don't understand the difference between tactics and strategy. But to give you a hand, here are two positionally weak moves for white in the opening:
2. f4: which opens the king-side prematurely, and
3. Bc4: allowing the check, displacing the king, and losing castling rights.
If even a good player did this to me, they would lose, assuming they don't work suffieciently hard to build a queen-side defence. Again, I'll reiterate my open question to you all, what's so good about their positional play?
Balla88: You're a coward for deleting my game when you were the one who challenged me. Grow some balls.
powershaker: what is so strange with my success? I have been playing low rated players after all.
Originally posted by caffienex2.f4 is the King's Gambit, a book opening which is still played today by strong players. You are revealing your ignorance of chess theory and history. You also reveal your lack of understanding calling 2.f4 a weak positional move. How can a move which contests a key central square, e5, be called positionally weak?
BiggDoggProblem: You're a newb if you don't understand the difference between tactics and strategy. But to give you a hand, here are two positionally weak moves for white in the opening:
2. f4: which opens the king-side prematurely, and
3. Bc4: allowing the check, displacing the king, and losing castling rights.
If even a good player did this to ...[text shortened]... aker: what is so strange with my success? I have been playing low rated players after all.