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  1. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    18 Jan '03 00:21
    What do you guys think? Anyone have any interesting games with it? Anyone wanna play it? 1.e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 Pretty fun but a little hard to handle!
  2. Standard member Dutch Defense
    Stealer of Souls
    17 Nov '07 02:49
    I play the Modern Defense now. It's as of last week my most used defense against 1.e4
  3. 17 Nov '07 02:52 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by !~TONY~!
    What do you guys think? Anyone have any interesting games with it? Anyone wanna play it? 1.e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 Pretty fun but a little hard to handle!
    don't play it if you don't Like KID lines because 3.c4 and what else would you transpose it to.
  4. Standard member Dutch Defense
    Stealer of Souls
    17 Nov '07 02:55
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    don't play it if you don't Like KID lines because 3.c4 and what else would you transpose it to.
    After 3.c4 is 3...d6 4.Nc3 Nc6
  5. 17 Nov '07 02:57
    Originally posted by Dutch Defense
    After 3.c4 is 3...d6 4.Nc3 Nc6
    exactly! the KID.
  6. Standard member chessisvanity
    THE BISHOP GOD
    17 Nov '07 03:03
    regardless of what the books say......moves like 1...g6 transpose!!

    and leave you playing against a guy who is smiling a lot!!

    I used to play 1...g6 untill i realized it does transpose....

    I used to play 1.b3 untill i realized in transposes into "colle" "English"....."Reti".....etc etc...

    I used to play 1...b6 untill i realized against 1.d4 it turns into a "Dutch" defense.....

    You can thank one of our members for that last one......
  7. 17 Nov '07 05:07
    Originally posted by !~TONY~!
    What do you guys think? Anyone have any interesting games with it? Anyone wanna play it? 1.e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 Pretty fun but a little hard to handle!
    I like it. and the transposition argument, well, tough luck...
    you'll just have to master KID
  8. Standard member chessisvanity
    THE BISHOP GOD
    17 Nov '07 06:04
    modern sucks....enough said.
  9. Standard member chessisvanity
    THE BISHOP GOD
    17 Nov '07 06:04
    Phillip has had a few too many....

    son of a bitch!! you can't tell them my real name!!
  10. Standard member Korch
    Chess Warrior
    17 Nov '07 07:16
    Originally posted by !~TONY~!
    What do you guys think? Anyone have any interesting games with it? Anyone wanna play it? 1.e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 Pretty fun but a little hard to handle!
    I`m playing it quite often - possible transposition into KID does not worry me.
  11. 17 Nov '07 07:22
    Originally posted by Korch
    I`m playing it quite often - possible transposition into KID does not worry me.
    Of course it doesn't! cuz you are the master!
  12. Standard member Dutch Defense
    Stealer of Souls
    17 Nov '07 13:30
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    exactly! the KID.
    It's not the KID without the knight on f6
  13. 17 Nov '07 13:52
    Originally posted by chessisvanity
    regardless of what the books say......moves like 1...g6 transpose!!

    and leave you playing against a guy who is smiling a lot!!

    I used to play 1...g6 untill i realized it does transpose....

    I used to play 1.b3 untill i realized in transposes into "colle" "English"....."Reti".....etc etc...

    I used to play 1...b6 untill i realized against 1.d4 ...[text shortened]... into a "Dutch" defense.....

    You can thank one of our members for that last one......
    1. ...b6 and 1. ...g6 are indeed tough to play... hats off to anyone who is sucessful with these on a regular basis!

    You state:

    I used to play 1.b3 untill i realized in transposes into "colle" "English"....."Reti".....etc etc...

    What's wrong with that? That's part of the fun of hypermodern openings -- trying to reach a middle game that suits you and hopefully is an uncomfortable and unfamiliar position for your opponents, instead of the standard e4 and d4 openings and the usuual responses. Granted, it's not the most ambitious way to play, but it can throw people off somewhat in the unique positions that result from b3.

    And transposing to the English or Zukertort isn't that bad, if you are already familiar with them. The Reti-- that's a different story-- a good, but complex opening which requires alot of positional knowledge and great timing in the center as far as the e2 pawn is concerned.

    I guess with hypermodern openings, you either love 'em or hate 'em--and they seem to be easier to play with White (that extra tempo helps!).
  14. Standard member Kepler
    Demon Duck
    17 Nov '07 13:56
    Originally posted by !~TONY~!
    What do you guys think? Anyone have any interesting games with it? Anyone wanna play it? 1.e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 Pretty fun but a little hard to handle!
    I will happily play 1. ... g6 against anything except 1. b3 or 1. b4. I find that very often white believes the hype and gets over extended and over confident.
  15. Standard member Dutch Defense
    Stealer of Souls
    17 Nov '07 14:21
    Against 1.b3, I'll play 1...f5 or 1...e5

    Against 1.b4, I'll play 1...e5