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  1. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    23 Oct '07 23:13 / 1 edit
    I've heard it a number of times and I definitely agree. Even in the 2000+ level I see pawn pins totally ignored. A nicely placed bishop (especially after castling) can dominate an opposing king.

    Check this game out... this is what I mean.

    Game 4133422

    I've also played one where I salvaged a draw from a totally lost position because of my opponent (2000) missing the pawn pin... I should look it up.
  2. Standard member Ragnorak
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    23 Oct '07 23:22 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    I've heard it a number of times and I definitely agree. Even in the 2000+ level I see pawn pins totally ignored. A nicely placed bishop (especially after castling) can dominate an opposing king.

    Check this game out... this is what I mean.

    Game 4133422

    I've also played one where I salvaged a draw from a totally lost position because of my opponent (2000) missing the pawn pin... I should look it up.
    I don't think I'd miss that pin as its so thematic (f7 pawn absolutely pinned by bishop).

    Kasparov - Browne 1979 contains a nice pawn pin.

    White to play


    38. Bh7+ Kxh7 39. Qxe6 1-0

    D
  3. 23 Oct '07 23:43
    Originally posted by Ragnorak
    I don't think I'd miss that pin as its so thematic (f7 pawn absolutely pinned by bishop).

    Kasparov - Browne 1979 contains a nice pawn pin.

    White to play
    [fen]1r1q2k1/R4p2/3Pb2p/4Q1p1/1p2B3/2p3PP/1P3P2/6K1 w - - 0 38[/fen]

    38. Bh7+ Kxh7 39. Qxe6+ 1-0

    D
    am I missing something?
    how is Qxe6 check?
  4. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    23 Oct '07 23:50
    would u just move in our game already
  5. Standard member Ragnorak
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    23 Oct '07 23:53
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    am I missing something?
    how is Qxe6 check?
    Notation error on my part.

    D
  6. 23 Oct '07 23:53
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    would u just move in our game already
    I did, and it looks like an ugly move...
    I could have just handed you then win...
  7. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    23 Oct '07 23:55
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    I did, and it looks like an ugly move...
    I could have just handed you then win...
    mhmm you did.
  8. 23 Oct '07 23:57
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    mhmm you did.
    so, on a scale of one to ten, what was your reaction when you saw my move?
    one being completely expectant
    ten being lost/bewildered/confused/dumbfounded/...
  9. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    23 Oct '07 23:59 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    so, on a scale of one to ten, what was your reaction when you saw my move?
    one being completely expectant
    ten being lost/bewildered/confused/dumbfounded/...
    when i saw Qc7 I kinda figured.. you're only other move (which won for me anyways) was back to Qd8.

    ... so 8

    Game 4165946 - Just gloating.
  10. 24 Oct '07 00:00
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    when i saw Qc7 I kinda figured.. you're only other move (which won for me anyways) was back to Qd8.

    ... so 8
    8 move win...
    jeesh
    are you using magical faries to warp my sense of everything during gameplay?
  11. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    24 Oct '07 00:01
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    8 move win...
    jeesh
    are you using magical faries to warp my sense of everything during gameplay?
    are you smoking magical faries?
  12. 24 Oct '07 00:02
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    are you smoking magical faries?
    pssh... I wish, maybe magical faries could have saved that game...
  13. 24 Oct '07 00:41
    I think I am especially susceptable to those pins, not only did I miss a perpetual against you that time, but I have also lost games when I didnt notice the pin.

    Game 3967889
    This being the most recent example that springs to mind.
  14. 24 Oct '07 10:36
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    pssh... I wish, maybe magical faries could have saved that game...
    ih8sens and rubberjaw30 ...I imagine you two as brothers sitting in the same room building threads for laughs....
  15. 24 Oct '07 13:46
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    I've heard it a number of times and I definitely agree. Even in the 2000+ level I see pawn pins totally ignored. A nicely placed bishop (especially after castling) can dominate an opposing king.

    Check this game out... this is what I mean.

    Game 4133422

    I've also played one where I salvaged a draw from a totally lost position because of my opponent (2000) missing the pawn pin... I should look it up.
    I find the rook lift to be overlooked not as often but only because it isn't a possibilty as much as the absolute pawn pin. I have a game somwhere where a player considerably higher rated than me offered a draw overlooking a dangerous rook lift that lead to the win for me.