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    23 Oct '07 23:131 edit
    I've heard it a number of times and I definitely agree. Even in the 2000+ level I see pawn pins totally ignored. A nicely placed bishop (especially after castling) can dominate an opposing king.

    Check this game out... this is what I mean.

    Game 4133422

    I've also played one where I salvaged a draw from a totally lost position because of my opponent (2000) missing the pawn pin... I should look it up.
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    23 Oct '07 23:223 edits
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    I've heard it a number of times and I definitely agree. Even in the 2000+ level I see pawn pins totally ignored. A nicely placed bishop (especially after castling) can dominate an opposing king.

    Check this game out... this is what I mean.

    Game 4133422

    I've also played one where I salvaged a draw from a totally lost position because of my opponent (2000) missing the pawn pin... I should look it up.
    I don't think I'd miss that pin as its so thematic (f7 pawn absolutely pinned by bishop).

    Kasparov - Browne 1979 contains a nice pawn pin.

    White to play


    38. Bh7+ Kxh7 39. Qxe6 1-0

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    23 Oct '07 23:43
    Originally posted by Ragnorak
    I don't think I'd miss that pin as its so thematic (f7 pawn absolutely pinned by bishop).

    Kasparov - Browne 1979 contains a nice pawn pin.

    White to play
    [fen]1r1q2k1/R4p2/3Pb2p/4Q1p1/1p2B3/2p3PP/1P3P2/6K1 w - - 0 38[/fen]

    38. Bh7+ Kxh7 39. Qxe6+ 1-0

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    am I missing something?
    how is Qxe6 check?
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    23 Oct '07 23:50
    would u just move in our game already 😉
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    23 Oct '07 23:53
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    am I missing something?
    how is Qxe6 check?
    Notation error on my part.

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    23 Oct '07 23:53
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    would u just move in our game already 😉
    I did, and it looks like an ugly move...
    I could have just handed you then win...
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    23 Oct '07 23:55
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    I did, and it looks like an ugly move...
    I could have just handed you then win...
    mhmm you did.
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    23 Oct '07 23:57
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    mhmm you did.
    so, on a scale of one to ten, what was your reaction when you saw my move?
    one being completely expectant
    ten being lost/bewildered/confused/dumbfounded/...
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    23 Oct '07 23:592 edits
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    so, on a scale of one to ten, what was your reaction when you saw my move?
    one being completely expectant
    ten being lost/bewildered/confused/dumbfounded/...
    when i saw Qc7 I kinda figured.. you're only other move (which won for me anyways) was back to Qd8.

    ... so 8

    Game 4165946 - Just gloating.
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    24 Oct '07 00:00
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    when i saw Qc7 I kinda figured.. you're only other move (which won for me anyways) was back to Qd8.

    ... so 8
    8 move win...
    jeesh
    are you using magical faries to warp my sense of everything during gameplay?
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    24 Oct '07 00:01
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    8 move win...
    jeesh
    are you using magical faries to warp my sense of everything during gameplay?
    are you smoking magical faries?
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    24 Oct '07 00:02
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    are you smoking magical faries?
    pssh... I wish, maybe magical faries could have saved that game...
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    24 Oct '07 00:41
    I think I am especially susceptable to those pins, not only did I miss a perpetual against you that time, but I have also lost games when I didnt notice the pin.

    Game 3967889
    This being the most recent example that springs to mind.
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    24 Oct '07 10:36
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    pssh... I wish, maybe magical faries could have saved that game...
    ih8sens and rubberjaw30 ...I imagine you two as brothers sitting in the same room building threads for laughs....
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    24 Oct '07 13:46
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    I've heard it a number of times and I definitely agree. Even in the 2000+ level I see pawn pins totally ignored. A nicely placed bishop (especially after castling) can dominate an opposing king.

    Check this game out... this is what I mean.

    Game 4133422

    I've also played one where I salvaged a draw from a totally lost position because of my opponent (2000) missing the pawn pin... I should look it up.
    I find the rook lift to be overlooked not as often but only because it isn't a possibilty as much as the absolute pawn pin. I have a game somwhere where a player considerably higher rated than me offered a draw overlooking a dangerous rook lift that lead to the win for me.
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