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1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. Be2 Qc7
If you look at whites moves, you will see that every one of them is a good developing move. Then look at blacks, and you will see otherwise: c5 only controls the center and opens the line for the queen, d6 and e6 take a space disadvantage as well as block both of the black bishops, cxd4 simply wastes a move, a6 only controls b5, and Qc7 develops the queen as the second piece to be developed. Considering all these factors wouldn't one think black is hopelessly lost? Yet the position is perfectly playable.

white to play.

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Originally posted by bobbob1056th
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. Be2 Qc7
If you look at whites moves, you will see that every one of them is a good developing move. Then look at blacks, and you will see otherwise: c5 only controls the center and opens the line for the queen, d6 and e6 take a space disadvantage as well as block both of the black bisho ...[text shortened]...

white to play.
[fen]rnb1kb1r/1pq2ppp/p2ppn2/8/3NP3/2N1B3/PPP1BPPP/R2QK2R w KQkq - 0 8[/fen]
Game Result White Black
Game 296867 W SkipSlot The Sicilian
Game 578691 B lioness Baca
Game 1037680 D Yozzer Duhian

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Yes, the maddening thing about the Sicilian is that no matter how ratty the position looks, the black pieces just want to _cooperate_ so well! And if white falters in his attack, the black pieces just seem to uncoil from where they sit. Been there on both sides, done that, been pulverized and have pulverized in return.

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there is a way to make black posistion very bad by creating a hanging pawn and bad bishop .. if anyone wants to play me i'll show them 😛
I think you hear so much about this opening on this site because it was Garry Kasparov favorite mostly..

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Originally posted by CenterNut
there is a way to make black posistion very bad by creating a hanging pawn and bad bishop .. if anyone wants to play me i'll show them 😛
I think you hear so much about this opening on this site because it was Garry Kasparov favorite mostly..
please do 🙂

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Originally posted by CenterNut
there is a way to make black posistion very bad by creating a hanging pawn and bad bishop .. if anyone wants to play me i'll show them 😛
I think you hear so much about this opening on this site because it was Garry Kasparov favorite mostly..
Personally I think the main reason it is seen often on this site is that it is one of blacks most reliable defences to e4, and that it is commonly played in over the board chess too. It also contains many varietys of position in its plethora of lines.

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Just don't play the sicilian dragon. It sucks!

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Originally posted by Regicidal
Just don't play the sicilian dragon. It sucks!
Yep, every time I try it, I never seem to have time to complete the fianchetto (safely). I call it the "un-dragon." ;-)

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Originally posted by CenterNut
I think you hear so much about this opening on this site because it was Garry Kasparov favorite mostly..
geez folks

Look at NIC stats on the openings

1.e4 is the most popular opening
1.d4 scores better for white than 1.e4
1.e4 would score better than 1.d4 if you excluded 1...c5 in response to 1.e4

We hear so much about the Sicilian because it cuts down white's scoring percentage after 1.e4 better than anything else.

All of black's initial moves control the center, all coordinate black's pieces, all mobilize black's forces: "development" is a pseudo-element of chess strategy. Mobility, piece coordination, and center control are real elements. See Dan Heisman, Elements of Positional Evaluation.

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Originally posted by CrawlIce
Yep, every time I try it, I never seem to have time to complete the fianchetto (safely). I call it the "un-dragon." ;-)
I used to play it extensively. It worked for a while. I got fed up when weaker players kept on beating me. The problem is against the Yugoslav, black has to work like a jackass to develop a credible attack while white can make natural moves for his attack.

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The original poster analyzed the moves quite wrong. Notice that cxd4 isn't just a waste. It trades a flank pawn for a center pawn. Qc7 has the queen looking all the way down the c-file, while the pawns on e6, d6, and a6 stop white from moving anywhere on the 5th rank. It's tough to break down something like that. Sure, white is developed, but he has to work hard to exploit his development against blacks solid position.

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C-Pawn is a centre pawn.
files C to F ranks 3 to 6
is the centre
A, B, G & H are the flank pawns

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Originally posted by CenterNut
C-Pawn is a centre pawn.
files C to F ranks 3 to 6
is the centre
A, B, G & H are the flank pawns
Nope, the center is the 4 squares.

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Originally posted by Regicidal
Nope, the center is the 4 squares.
and the 12 squares around it..
I watched a vid by yasser seirawan which explain this.. and also have it in a book.. im trying to find a web page for you.. but if not I will scan the page in my book..

here you go..
http://www.kidchess.com/glossary/abridged_glossary.htm

they call it here border center.. but I asure you its the centre
this is a good dvd btw
http://www.wholesalechess.com/chess/chess_videos_dvds/Pro+Chess+Video+Chess+Mentor+DVD

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Originally posted by CenterNut
and the 12 squares around it..
I watched a vid by yasser seirawan which explain this.. and also have it in a book.. im trying to find a web page for you.. but if not I will scan the page in my book..

here you go..
http://www.kidchess.com/glossary/abridged_glossary.htm

they call it here border center.. but I asure you its the centre
The glossary confirms what I said. The center is the four squares.
The broader center is not the same as the center. Pieces located on the broader center may influence or pressure the basic center which is the most important.