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  1. 29 Dec '09 19:59
    I've been playing chess for about 24 years now, but only recently online. I never took advantage of drawing when playing IRL, but playing rated games online I've started using drawing the same way I use the doubling cube in backgammon.

    I'm curious if anybody has any thoughts about using drawing as a tactic. Also, what does a draw say to you about a player? Are there any forms or conventions about offering a draw? Should there be?
  2. 29 Dec '09 20:10
    Originally posted by listener83
    I've been playing chess for about 24 years now, but only recently online. I never took advantage of drawing when playing IRL, but playing rated games online I've started using drawing the same way I use the doubling cube in backgammon.

    I'm curious if anybody has any thoughts about using drawing as a tactic. Also, what does a draw say to you about a player? Are there any forms or conventions about offering a draw? Should there be?
    I have heard before in game analysis, he is threatening a draw.
    Yes and yes.
  3. 29 Dec '09 21:53
    The tactical offer of draw is a well known ploy.

    Strong players use it when in trouble v a weaker player.
    The weaker player can only see the grading points and agrees right away.

    Offering a draw in a level postion throws the onus on the other player
    to 'do something' and often the first player to think of plan losses.

    There again refusing a draw in a level position has been known to upset the
    draw offerer so much they in turn 'do something.'

    Etiquette:
    Offer a draw when it's your turn to move. Offer the draw and then make your move.

    Your opponet can either accept it, decline it verbally or move.*
    They can take as long as they like to accept or decline the draw offer.

    (*Or you can laugh as FIshcer did v Geller when the latter offered him a draw.)
  4. 29 Dec '09 22:08
    I take a picture,much easier.
  5. 29 Dec '09 22:27
    Originally posted by Ajuin
    I take a picture,much easier.
    ba-dup ching
    (rim shot)
  6. 29 Dec '09 22:30
    Originally posted by listener83
    ba-dup ching
    (rim shot)
    Sorry,old joke,couldn't resist
  7. 29 Dec '09 22:31
    It brought a smile to a very cold day in the shop.
  8. Standard member Traveling Again
    I'm 1/4 Ninja
    31 Dec '09 16:54
    Originally posted by greenpawn34

    (*Or you can laugh as FIshcer did v Geller when the latter offered him a draw.)
    because Geller made a funny face?...
  9. 31 Dec '09 17:24 / 1 edit
    No Geller made a funny move.

    Just copied this from another site:

    "Fischer's disdain for short draws is well documented, one of the most famous
    examples being to laugh when Geller (who had a big plus score against Fischer at
    the time) offered him a draw on move 7 in their game at the Sousse Interzonal."

    See Game 29 Fischer's 60. Here are the first 7 moves. RJF was White.

  10. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    01 Jan '10 22:49
    I remember reading a quote from GM Ulf Andersson when he was rated in the top 4 in the world in the 1980's, after being asked what his secret was. He was well-known for drawing all the time. His response to keeping his rating over 2600 (very high back then) was

    "I never lose. And 20% of the time I win!"

    That idea has always stuck with me, even though I lack the temperament to perform that way.

    Paul