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    24 Sep '11 01:45
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi FL - your cat is worse thatn Trevs cat.

    Not a true [b]'Alliteration checkmate'
    we are inventing a whole Chess theme here.

    If you can get a White knight back to f3 mating then that is true one.
    Possibly SG territory here. Compose the shortest game where 1.Nf3 is the
    first move and White mates with Nf3 (Fat LAdy;s cat v Trev's cat).

    An A ...[text shortened]... i, kick, magnesium......

    World Chess Champion 'Euwe' an alliteration - There is another?[/b]
    An alliteration is when to words start with the same letter... like Orange Octopi in the silver sky... two alliterations. One also has to be an adjective and the other one a noun.
  2. Standard memberchessicle
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    24 Sep '11 09:13
    When I suggested the Hook Mate, I thought I had never pulled it off - but I have!

  3. Standard memberchessicle
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    24 Sep '11 09:37
    How about a blog about castling with checkmate?

    For example:

  4. Standard memberthaughbaer
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    24 Sep '11 12:38
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Found Three!

    (that is what I have been doing for the past 11 hours.....looking.)

    Two for Black where 1...Nc6 finishes with Nc6 Mate and 1...Nf6 ends with
    Ng6 mate. (In this game the Knight performs heroics on the Queenside then
    returns to f6 to mate White.)

    But the best is 1.e4 and 29 moves later e4 mate. (there was an exchange
    on e3 and the ...[text shortened]... ate in one another way with a Bishop. He chose 30.e4 mate.

    Next Blog sorted.......off to bed.
    Infamy in a GP blog. I always thought it would be a dodgy game of mine. I did wonder whether you'd find something that wasn't a knight move.
  5. e4
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    24 Sep '11 13:251 edit
    Hi SG.

    Perfect - I'll those.

    Hi chessicle

    Wish I had used that example. Black has a hook mate, White's Hook mate
    attempts just fail.

    I'm sure I showed the examples I have of castling with mate. I recall
    showing mate with White and Black mating with 0-0 and 0-0-0.

    Hi Tom Tom.

    Had me googling.
    It starting to look like what site you go to. Some are giving examples
    of an alliteration like the ones I posted on a previous post.
    chronic, deed, growing, Israeli, kick, magnesium etc.etc.

    Is there anybody out there who knows for sure what you call a word that
    begins and ends with the same letter. One of you must have a clever friend.
    It must have a unique term.....an odd word?

    I cannot call it the 'Odd Word Game.'
    A game that begins and ends in checkmate with the same move.
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    24 Sep '11 14:06
    Originally posted by greenpawn34


    Is there anybody out there who knows for sure what you call a word that
    begins and ends with the same letter. One of you must have a clever friend.
    It must have a unique term.....an odd word?

    I cannot call it the 'Odd Word Game.'
    A game that begins and ends in checkmate with the same move.
    A word that's spelled the same forwards and backwards, such as 'kayak' or 'racecar', is a "palindrome", so that might work.

    Although it'd certainly be tough to pull off a chess game that could logically be played forward and backward.
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    24 Sep '11 14:261 edit
    Just googled it and apparently it's already a chess variant:

    Palindromic chess: a game in which the ending position is the same as the starting position (just rotate the board 180 degrees at the end and you're ready for another game).

    The only catch is that you don't win via checkmate, you win by moving to set your pieces up correctly on the other side. No capturing. Sounds a bit boring.

    edit: that variant isn't really palindromic either, as it isn't the same way both directions.
  8. e4
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    24 Sep '11 15:05
    If someone does not come up with the word for a word that begins
    and and ends with the same letter then I'll invent one.
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    24 Sep '11 19:321 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    If someone does not come up with the word for a word that begins
    and and ends with the same letter then I'll invent one.
    It would be assonance or consonance depending on the word. Vowel sounds are assonance and consanant sounds are consonance but the terms are general and usually applied to a sentence. Ie The deadly dreaded dingo. If you notice that is also alliteration.
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    25 Sep '11 12:21
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    An alliteration is when to words start with the same letter... like Orange Octopi in the silver sky... two alliterations. One also has to be an adjective and the other one a noun.
    Yes, but no. Alliteration's artful aid always applies, even if one is an adverb. The category of the words is not important; only the initial sounds are. In fact, depending on which period you're talking about, all vowels alliterate with one another. In more or less all periods, it's about sounds, too, not letters - so cigar and sordid alliterate, but cigar, chess and computer do not (and computer alliterates with kimono).

    If you want some decent alliteration, you could do worse than Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Either the original (less clear than Chaucer, but much easier than, say, Beowulf) or Tolkien's excellent alliterating translation would do.

    Connection to chess? Well, there is a mediæval Dutch romance in which Gawain (by the name of Walewein) chases a floating chess board. I don't know if that one uses alliteration, though. Couperus' modern interpretation certainly doesn't, but it is rather funny.

    Richard
  11. Standard memberTimmyBx
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    25 Sep '11 15:38
    I have found a couple where Black makes White "Bleed his own Blood", responding to 1. Nf3 with an eventual Nf3#. This one is kind of fun, because white is doing the cowardly defense.... setup a fortress, and try to run his opponent out of time by shuffling pieces around.

    Haven't found one yet where white says "NOBODY makes me BLEED my own BLOOD! NOBODY!!!" 🙂

  12. e4
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    25 Sep '11 15:54
    Again not quite right. Needs to be 1.Nf3 and mate for White ending in Nf3
    as in SG's examples. I have a 1.e4 game ending in 30.e4 mate!
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    25 Sep '11 18:36
    Originally posted by Shallow Blue
    Yes, but no. Alliteration's artful aid always applies, even if one is an adverb. The category of the words is not important; only the initial sounds are. In fact, depending on which period you're talking about, all vowels alliterate with one another. In more or less all periods, it's about sounds, too, not letters - so cigar and sordid alliterate, but c ...[text shortened]... gh. Couperus' modern interpretation certainly doesn't, but it is rather funny.

    Richard
    Hmmm. Well I forgot about the adverbs that would also work but I never knew same sounds would work... always thought that fell under assonance and consonance.
  14. SubscriberPaul Leggett
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    25 Sep '11 19:17
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    Hmmm. Well I forgot about the adverbs that would also work but I never knew same sounds would work... always thought that fell under assonance and consonance.
    Adverbs are simply freeware verbs- that's why the ad is in the front.
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    27 Sep '11 07:024 edits
    if there is no horse around for the hook mate, you can try to use a pawn and a rook:



    edit: found this in a nice recent game, black decided to squeeze into the tight square just before with ..Kd6 followed by Rb6e6. Game 8676240
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