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  1. 11 Feb '07 03:14
    Im just curious how many people are using outside refrences to play the opening. This seems alot like cheating. What are your thoughts?
  2. 11 Feb '07 03:19 / 1 edit
    I do, virtually everyone does.

    It's not against the rules, and therefore not cheating.
  3. 11 Feb '07 03:20
    Originally posted by likeforest
    Im just curious how many people are using outside refrences to play the opening. This seems alot like cheating. What are your thoughts?
    CONGRATULATIONS!!! YOU'VE JUST MADE THE 1000TH THREAD ON THIS TOPIC!!!
  4. 11 Feb '07 03:20
    I dont. Seems like cheating to me also.
  5. 11 Feb '07 03:23
    why bother playing a game if you dont even think about the moves? this makes very little sense to me.
  6. 11 Feb '07 03:25
    Originally posted by likeforest
    why bother playing a game if you dont even think about the moves? this makes very little sense to me.
    Wow - it's like 8-10 moves, man. Get over it.

    It's either use them, or be stuck at 1300-1400, because virtually everyone at MY level (notice I'm not a 1200 like you) uses them, so if I don't I'll have a distinct disadvantage.
  7. 11 Feb '07 03:29
    Even if they made it a rule, it would be impossible to enforce.

    I suggest you invest in an opening database.
  8. 11 Feb '07 03:29
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    Wow - it's like 8-10 moves, man. Get over it.

    It's either use them, or be stuck at 1300-1400, because virtually everyone at MY level (notice I'm not a 1200 like you) uses them, so if I don't I'll have a distinct disadvantage.
    So youre saying that you would be at my level if the option to use databases were removed?
  9. 11 Feb '07 03:29
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    Wow - it's like 8-10 moves, man. Get over it.

    It's either use them, or be stuck at 1300-1400, because virtually everyone at MY level (notice I'm not a 1200 like you) uses them, so if I don't I'll have a distinct disadvantage.
    Some games go out of book way earlier than move 8
    Game 3156832
  10. 11 Feb '07 03:30
    so much for the ignore!! databases sometimes go very deep. you could still be in the "book" well into middlegame. if opening books and database only covered 8 moves nobody would need them (except you) because the variations would be easily remembered.
  11. 11 Feb '07 03:30
    Originally posted by Wayne1324
    So youre saying that you would be at my level if the option to use databases were removed?
    No, I'd probably be 50-75 points lower than now.
  12. 11 Feb '07 03:37
    wayne, cmsmaster would be at you level if he played stronger oppenents. consistantly playing people 300 points lower rated will slowly improve your rating. this combined with all the latest opening material, anyone can achieve cmsmasters rating.
  13. 11 Feb '07 03:38
    Originally posted by likeforest
    wayne, cmsmaster would be at you level if he played stronger oppenents. consistantly playing people 300 points lower rated will slowly improve your rating. this combined with all the latest opening material, anyone can achieve cmsmasters rating.
    Ever heard the song "Ignoreland?"
  14. 11 Feb '07 03:40
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    No, I'd probably be 50-75 points lower than now.
    "It's either use them, or be stuck at 1300-1400..."

    Which is it?
  15. 11 Feb '07 03:41
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    Ever heard the song "Ignoreland?"
    Game 2453602 - I have two more in progress against this opponenet - no comments as it's in progress

    Game 2929024 - I won all three of my games against him - his rating's slipped a bit lately.

    Game 2277433

    Also take note that my rating's climbed quite quickly - most of the people I played were at my rating when the games started, can I help it that I'm so damn good? Nah....