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  1. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    03 May '07 14:28
    Game 3491705

    This game was crazy. That's about all I can say.

    I am very curious to read what other people found in this game, I think there was a ton of missed stuff.

    Enjoy,
    Matt
  2. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    03 May '07 14:39
    Why not 20.Bd7+ winning back his bishop?
  3. 03 May '07 14:44
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    Why not 20.Bd7+ winning back his bishop?
    I think he was black.
  4. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    03 May '07 14:45
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    Why not 20.Bd7+ winning back his bishop?
    1. He had a better move there (which he missed).

    2. I would still have a material advantage.

    3. He was playing for a draw because I had too much material on him.
  5. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    03 May '07 15:05
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    1. He had a better move there (which he missed).

    2. I would still have a material advantage.

    3. He was playing for a draw because I had too much material on him.
    What was the better move? I also figured he was playing for a draw but that would pressure you a little bit and he could still draw it later couldn't he?
  6. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    03 May '07 15:06
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    What was the better move? I also figured he was playing for a draw but that would pressure you a little bit and he could still draw it later couldn't he?
    Be8+ leads to mate if I'm not mistaken... I'm analyzing it with fritz right now.
  7. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    03 May '07 15:12
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    Be8+ leads to mate if I'm not mistaken... I'm analyzing it with fritz right now.
    hmmm. I think that Bc7 stops the mate. But let me check it out a little bit more.
  8. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    03 May '07 15:16 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    hmmm. I think that Bc7 stops the mate. But let me check it out a little bit more.
    I have:

    20. Be8+, Bc7
    21. Rxd8+, Kxd8
    22. Rd1+, Kxe8
    23. Qxc7, Qe7
    24. Qb8+, Bc8
    25. Qxc8+, Qd8
    26. Qxd8#

    Most of that is forced...
  9. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    03 May '07 15:20 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    I have:

    20. Be8+, Bc7
    21. Rxd8+, Kxd8
    22. Rd1+, Kxe8
    23. Qxc7, Qe7
    24. Qb8+, Bc8
    25. Qxc8+, Qd8
    26. Qxd8#

    Most of that is forced...
    Oh. I've missed Qxc7.

    Edit: And it was a very dumb miss.
  10. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    03 May '07 15:23
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    Oh. I've missed Qxc7.

    Edit: And it was a very dumb miss.
    Actually, you should know that fritz still hasn't found mate and it's been 25 minutes. If that makes you feel any better.

    ... actually, that probably means that mate isn't forced.
  11. Standard member emanon
    Student
    03 May '07 15:27
    why is it drawn...?black is winning rite?
  12. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    03 May '07 15:28
    Originally posted by emanon
    why is it drawn...?black is winning rite?
    White has perpetual check.
  13. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    03 May '07 15:35
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    Actually, you should know that fritz still hasn't found mate and it's been 25 minutes. If that makes you feel any better.

    ... actually, that probably means that mate isn't forced.
    Phew... Ok then.
  14. 03 May '07 15:48
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    I have:

    20. Be8+, Bc7
    21. Rxd8+, Kxd8
    22. Rd1+, Kxe8
    23. Qxc7, Qe7
    24. Qb8+, Bc8
    25. Qxc8+, Qd8
    26. Qxd8#

    Most of that is forced...
    Black can play 22. ... Kc8 and will remain a bishop up with this line.

    I can't find any line that equalises for white after move 19, with Bd7+ not winning back the bishop due to Bxa1, leaving white with B vs R+P.
  15. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    03 May '07 15:59
    Originally posted by PaddyB
    Black can play 22. ... Kc8 and will remain a bishop up with this line.

    I can't find any line that equalises for white after move 19, with Bd7+ not winning back the bishop due to Bxa1, leaving white with B vs R+P.
    I wonder how I could have avoided a draw then... I was in a won position it appears.