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Volume 4 My Great Predecessors

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Anyone have an opinion on this book. I just purchesed this fourth volume on Fischer, Reshevsky, Najdorf, etc. and it seems a great collection of astute analysis and historical background. I even got some information about Fischer I hadn't heard of before, like the questionable identity of his father. In any case, it makes good reading and I'm sure it'll be one of the classic game collections of all time. Others might have a different opinion.

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Originally posted by buddy2
Anyone have an opinion on this book. I just purchesed this fourth volume on Fischer, Reshevsky, Najdorf, etc. and it seems a great collection of astute analysis and historical background. I even got some information about Fischer I hadn't heard of before, like the questionable identity of his father. In any case, it makes good reading and I'm sure it'll be one of the classic game collections of all time. Others might have a different opinion.
The book is very, very good. I have purchased all the books in the series and I can say that the quality of the analysis and the games are just fantastic. History, as told by Kasparov, has to be taken with a grain of salt (i.e., was Keres forced to throw games at Botvinnik? was Bronstein pressured to lose against Botvinnik?) Kaspy doesn't even entertain those claims in his book (tome 3) which indicate that he is biased [I don't blame him...]

Kaspy seems to detest Fischer personally because in his book he takes the opportunity to discredit him in some personal matters. I think that a kinder tone was called for... However, all in all, the books are great.

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Originally posted by Alopinto
The book is very, very good. I have purchased all the books in the series and I can say that the quality of the analysis and the games are just fantastic. History, as told by Kasparov, has to be taken with a grain of salt (i.e., was Keres forced to throw games at Botvinnik? was Bronstein pressured to lose against Botvinnik?) Kaspy doesn't even entertai ...[text shortened]... atters. I think that a kinder tone was called for... However, all in all, the books are great.
I feel so sorry for Fischer, everyone around the world, including his own country, seems to hate him even though he's done nothing wrong and has actually accomplished a lot for his country when you consider he was beating the strong chess soviet system duirng the cold war. That has to count for something, no? But no, everyone hates Fischer, so he has to hide somewhere and go hermit, sad. . .

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Originally posted by mateulose
I feel so sorry for Fischer, everyone around the world, including his own country, seems to hate him even though he's done nothing wrong and has actually accomplished a lot for his country when you consider he was beating the strong chess soviet system duirng the cold war. That has to count for something, no? But no, everyone hates Fischer, so he has to hide somewhere and go hermit, sad. . .
He's done nothing wrong? He explicitly hates Jews and America and said he was glad 9-11 happened. He can't refer to the USA without calling it "Jew controlled".

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
He's done nothing wrong? He explicitly hates Jews and America and said he was glad 9-11 happened. He can't refer to the USA without calling it "Jew controlled".
A) This is not a crime

B) Of course he's somewhat peeved at America, he did a lot for them, and how was he rewarded? Exactly, besides, he is CORRECT and SMARTER then Bush, 9/11 is America's FAULT, 100% America's fault, the war was started by America herself WELL BEFORE 9/11.

C) And yes, he's also correct about America and it's Jewish media. Look at Isreal? What reason does America have for supporting a theocratic invading country who only came in existance 50 years ago through the "go signal" of the U.N and the United States, that somehow the Jews had the right to conquer land to create their own homeland. The United States literally supplied the Jews with an armada military, randomly selected a peice of land where ppl already lived on, and said, "go carve Isreal out of a knife, screw the natives over, you deserve the right to do so."

So remember, Fischer is SMARTER then you, Fischer is SMARTER then Bush, and Fischer is still 110% CORRECT.

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Originally posted by mateulose
A) This is not a crime

B) Of course he's somewhat peeved at America, he did a lot for them, and how was he rewarded? Exactly, besides, he is CORRECT and SMARTER then Bush, 9/11 is America's FAULT, 100% America's fault, the war was started by America herself WELL BEFORE 9/11.

C) And yes, he's also correct about America and it's Jewish media. Look ...[text shortened]... r, Fischer is SMARTER then you, Fischer is SMARTER then Bush, and Fischer is still 110% CORRECT.
Fischer commited no crime? He disobeyed the trade embargo on Yugoslavia. While you may not agree that it should be a crime it was and he knowingly broke it.

Personally you strike me as a Fischer fanboy. There are plenty of you around. I'll admit Fischer was a great chessplayer. One of the very best ever. However his conduct outside of chess leaves a great deal to be desired.
Also if you were smarter than anyone you would know it's impossible to be more than 100% correct.

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Originally posted by mateulose
A) This is not a crime

B) Of course he's somewhat peeved at America, he did a lot for them, and how was he rewarded? Exactly, besides, he is CORRECT and SMARTER then Bush, 9/11 is America's FAULT, 100% America's fault, the war was started by America herself WELL BEFORE 9/11.

C) And yes, he's also correct about America and it's Jewish media. Look ...[text shortened]... r, Fischer is SMARTER then you, Fischer is SMARTER then Bush, and Fischer is still 110% CORRECT.
im sorry bt our friend mateulose is right on this one - the attack on the twin towers was a direct retaliation to the way America was treating Palestein, as a result of pandering to israel. im not anti-jewish; i dont think jews shd b treated worse than everyone else, i js dont think they shd b treated any better

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Fischer commited no crime? He disobeyed the trade embargo on Yugoslavia. While you may not agree that it should be a crime it was and he knowingly broke it.

Personally you strike me as a Fischer fanboy. There are plenty of you around. I'll admit Fischer was a great chessplayer. One of the very best ever. However his conduct outside of chess leaves a gr ...[text shortened]... o if you were smarter than anyone you would know it's impossible to be more than 100% correct.
American trade embargos are complete and utter CRAP. They are a result of silly Republican patriotism more then anything, is there any reason why the US has a trade embargo on Cuba all these years? Nope, it's about SICK, DISGUSTING, IMMORAL American right-wing patriotism, that's it. Personally I think patriotism/nationalism sucks and is an excuse to act like an idiot, nothing more, nothing less.

BTW, Fischer did not trade with Yoguslavia, he WON PRIZE money while IN YUGOSLAVIA.

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Admitting that the US is to blame for 9/11 is very different from being glad that it happened. Are you glad that a couple of thousand people died? I'm certainly not.

While you might agree, like I do, that America's trade embargos are wrong that doesn't give you reason to go breaking them and not expect repercussions.
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Gee, all I wanted to know was what you thought of the book...

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Originally posted by buddy2
Gee, all I wanted to know was what you thought of the book...
It's very good.

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Originally posted by mateulose
American trade embargos are complete and utter CRAP. They are a result of silly Republican patriotism more then anything, is there any reason why the US has a trade embargo on Cuba all these years? Nope, it's about SICK, DISGUSTING, IMMORAL American right-wing patriotism, that's it. Personally I think patriotism/nationalism sucks and is an excuse to act ...[text shortened]... ing less.

BTW, Fischer did not trade with Yoguslavia, he WON PRIZE money while IN YUGOSLAVIA.
utter nonsense

Trade embargos have never been right-wing; in fact, those furthest to the right reject such actions as illigitimate use of State power.

Earning money IS "trade."

Fischer broke laws set by the government, and he violated the standards of civility. His understanding of politics and culture is so far from reality that he makes Ronald Reagan eligible for the Pulitzer Prize in history, Dan Quail the spelling bee champion, and William Jefferson Clinton the model of sexual virtue.

He was a phenomenally gifted chessplayer more than 30 years ago, but now his obsession with FRC casts doubt on whether he understands even that one thing he has done well.

Fischer's success was never honored by the United States the way it might have been, but Fischer's own inability to be rational in his social and business dealings made it all but impossible, even for a meglomaniac like Richard Nixon, to so honor his astounding achievements. Fischer had the opportunity to give something to chess, particularly chess in the US. He squandered it.

The story of Robert J. Fischer is a tragedy. Garry Kasparov demonstrates respect for Fischer's genius, and he attempts to come to terms with the tragedy of Fischer's life.

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A few things. One, I think Kasparov is a genius. His fourth book, I will buy. He states fischer might have been afraid to lose to Karpov, but remember what he said years ago." Fischer would have crushed Karpov in 1975. After my battles with Karpov, if Fischer played today, he would lose." I agree. Karpov, in 1985 would have beaten Fischer. In 1975. Fischer may have won. Don't get me wrong, I love Fishcer, but why dodge. Why not let chess progress, Fischer?! He didn't. Kasparov's book is worth it.

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you know my opinion on that, check my profile. Bronstein rocked and rolled. "THe Sorcerer's Apprentice" , is more worthy than Botvinnick's "My favorite 100 games" or whatever. I actually got a sneer in the chess shop when i bought that botvinnick book. "What's wrong?". You 'll see. "No", I said. "The russian program is correct. For the time being"

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Here's what V.Anand had to say about the books "If I'd read it , it would probably be for the stories ,not the analysis." There's no love lost between these two.

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