Weak F2 and F7 Squares

Originally posted by rubberjaw30
no one plays it OTB anymore because it leads to such cramping positions...
Philidor was at a crack-induced time in his life when he was promoting 2. ... d6
the f8 bishop becomes weak, and d5 too...

I've played it OTB with some success, true its a little cramped but it gives white few targets. On a different note, the whole point of modern openings (King's Indian, Alekhine etc) is to start out with said cramp position and attack the fortified position of white.

Originally posted by c guy1
I've played it OTB with some success, true its a little cramped but it gives white few targets. On a different note, the whole point of modern openings (King's Indian, Alekhine etc) is to start out with said cramp position and attack the fortified position of white.

which is why I don't play Alekhine's or the King's Indian...
but i don't do so well in completely open positions either...
I like the semi-opens from the Slav and Caro-Kann...
yes, white does get few targets, but the already weak f7 square is one of those targets...

If you really want to assualt f7, try the Cochrane Gambit or Muzio gambit.

Cochrane:

1. e4
1... e5
2. Nf3
2...Nf6
3. Nxe5
3...d6
4. Nxf7
4...Kxf7

White has given up a Knight for two pawns and potential for the kingside attack

Muzio Gambit

1. e4
1... e5
2. f4
2...exf4
3. Nf3
3...g5
4. Bc4
4...g4
5. O-O!?
5...gxf3
6. Qxf3

White gives up a Knight for a strong attack on the f-file. You can also sac the Bishop on f7 a few moves later and things get very interesting.

Originally posted by 93confirmed
If you really want to assualt f7, try the Cochrane Gambit or Muzio gambit.

Cochrane:

1. e4
1... e5
2. Nf3
2...Nf6
3. Nxe5
3...d6
4. Nxf7
4...Kxf7

White has given up a Knight for two pawns and potential for the kingside attack

Muzio Gambit

1. e4
1... e5
2. f4
2...exf4
3. Nf3
3...g5
4. Bc4
4...g4
5. O-O!?
5...gxf3
6. Qxf3
...[text shortened]... he f-file. You can also sac the Bishop on f7 a few moves later and things get very interesting.

never heard of the Cochrane, but it looks fun enough...
Muzio is known from the king's gambit...
even more fun...

Originally posted by DeepThought

Game 3227767[/b]

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Originally posted by Dutch Defense
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that's what SHE said

Originally posted by DeepThought
The first two of these are from Benonis, and I'm not sure that they count as attacks on f7 - more sort smashing through the centre, although f7 played it's part in both. My opponent in the last one is a total beginner and well...

Game 2187302
Game 2966759
Game 3227767

On that last game, all I can say is: wow. 😲

An attack on f7 from a Morra Gambit in Game 2204349 and Game 3135364.

Does mating the king on f7 from a Grob count as in Game 2280267.

and in this French f7 is a weakness Game 2167397

Game 2788382 -- Quick mate
Game 2532048 -- Nxf7 was just a nail in the coffin.
Game 2514681 -- f7 was never taken, but the square had be be defended.