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27 Jun 19
27 Jun 19
@sundown316
I was wondering how long he would need to stay on top to be considered in the all time greats.
03 Jul 19
@sundown316 saidAt the moment, i'd say definitely no, they don't have a chance. 70+ games unbeaten, almost exclusively against the top 10/20. I'd say he is peaking (finally). Winning the World championship probably took some getting used to, where do you find motivation once you've won everything? I think he should set 2900 classical as his goal. Fischer and Kasparov both out graded the rest of the field by over 100 elo at their peaks. If Carlsen is to be considered best of all time, then he should be aiming for stuff like that..
He's won 4 major events in a row, by hefty margins. So, do any of the chess heavyweights have even the slightest chance against him in a WCC match? I say no.
03 Jul 19
@marinkatomb saidI think Jeff Sonas said Steinitz at one time was 199 points above 2nd place. If true then the gap at the top is closing. I predict the gap between #1 and #10 will be 25 points in 10 years.
At the moment, i'd say definitely no, they don't have a chance. 70+ games unbeaten, almost exclusively against the top 10/20. I'd say he is peaking (finally). Winning the World championship probably took some getting used to, where do you find motivation once you've won everything? I think he should set 2900 classical as his goal. Fischer and Kasparov both out graded the ...[text shortened]... aks. If Carlsen is to be considered best of all time, then he should be aiming for stuff like that..
04 Jul 19
@ketchuplover saidI'm not sure i agree. If you look at rating tables for online chess, take chess.com for example. You generally have one player who is just better than the other top 20. Carlsen is genuinely better than the rest. In ten years time, i wouldn't be surprised to see another player do the same. The thing with Magnus is he got to the top so young, it's tempting to think he's going to get over taken soon. He is only 28, i think he could easily be number 1 in ten years time. Kasparov set his peak rating of 2851 in the year 2000, after being on top for the best part of 20 years. As things stand, i don't really see anyone challenging either his WC title, or his rating status.
I think Jeff Sonas said Steinitz at one time was 199 points above 2nd place. If true then the gap at the top is closing. I predict the gap between #1 and #10 will be 25 points in 10 years.
There are some really promising players coming through, Artemiev springs to mind (I'm a huge fan of his in fact). Firouzja also is super talented! Still only 15 and rated 2685! Not sure if he is in range of Carlsen's record for breaking 2700, but it will be close.
Anyway, lets just enjoy Carlsen's games! His play with black has been sublime recently.
04 Jul 19
Carlsen reminds me a bit of Frank Marshall. Marshall had a great tournament record but did relatively poor in the match format. Of course there is no possible speed chess comparison; I've never seen mention of speed chess except 10 second chess where you had to make a move before a loud sound went off.
I wonder how Carlsen would react if there HAD to be a decisive score at the end of a match of classic chess? One point ahead, two...it wouldn't matter. I don't know who could beat him at speed chess, but I don't think "draw odds" are fair in a world championship match. He should be co-champion right now.
My .02.
04 Jul 19
@patzering saidNot here. And the evidence is clear- Carlsen has been avoiding/dodging Greenpawn34 for years now by only playing in high level events. He's afraid.
I've got 20 bucks greenpawn can take Carlsen.
Who wants some of that action?
09 Jul 19
@sundown316 saidSomeone worked out Carlsens performance for 2019 on reddit. They estimate that he has averaged 2924 for the year in Classical! Simply unprecedented for a player to do that over 70 odd games!
Make that 5 events in a row, as he just won the Croatia Grand Prix event, a point ahead of So. This should push his rating close to 2890, a new record.
https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/cakcdc/in_carlsens_best_years_to_date_in_2012_50_games/
