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Game 2391039

My opponent doesn't seem to realize this game is drawn. I haven't actually offered one yet, but I've tried to claim one, and RHP simply continues the match. Am I wrong about this being a draw?

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Originally posted by calydon
Game 2391039

My opponent doesn't seem to realize this game is drawn. I haven't actually offered one yet, but I've tried to claim one, and RHP simply continues the match. Am I wrong about this being a draw?
The game is a draw.

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...then offer it...

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Originally posted by calydon
Game 2391039

My opponent doesn't seem to realize this game is drawn. I haven't actually offered one yet, but I've tried to claim one, and RHP simply continues the match. Am I wrong about this being a draw?
I saw a feature called "Claim draw". I've been wondering if it contained enough smarts to actually do that? Why don't you click on it and tell us what happened?

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Originally posted by arrakis
I saw a feature called "Claim draw". I've been wondering if it contained enough smarts to actually do that? Why don't you click on it and tell us what happened?
I've heard of this thing called reading. Have you tried it?

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I've heard of this thing called reading. Have you tried it?
I've also heard of this "reading". Why don't you try it ?

skeeter

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YEs go for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Like Xanthos pointed out - I have tried it and it didn't work. The match just keeps going. I will offer a draw on my next move but if my opponent doesn't take it what do I do? Just keep moving until 50 moves without a pawn move or capture take place?

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From FAQ:
A draw can be claimed without any interaction from your opponent under a number of conditions. These are as follows:

* No piece capture or pawn movement has occurred for over 50 consecutive moves (100 half moves). Therefore the game has not progressed and a draw may be claimed by either player during their next move.

* Insufficient material remains on the board to finish the game. If only two kings remain then either player may claim a draw during their next move.

* Third repetition of a position. If any identical position appears three times during a game, then the game can be claimed as a draw. Please note that each repetition must be identical with regards to en passant and castling availability. A draw can only be claimed along with a move that contributes to a repetition. Claiming after the repetition has occurred is not possible, unless the same position can be repeated again on a future move.

It would seem that insufficient material is viewed only as K vs. K . So you'll just have to wait for a three-fold repetition or the 50 moves.

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Originally posted by skeeter
I've also heard of this "reading". Why don't [b]you try it ?

skeeter[/b]
I did. That's why I knew that calydon had already tried claiming a draw. And if arsekiss had bothered to read he'd know that claim draw doesn't work in this situation.

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Originally posted by skeeter
I've also heard of this "reading". Why don't [b]you try it ?

skeeter[/b]
Well XanthosNZ, you are rarely much help to anyone. Your priority was to slam me instead of inform others about that situation... You are totally useless. 😛

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Originally posted by calydon
[b]Game 2391039

My opponent doesn't seem to realize this game is drawn.
I suggest you send him/her/it a message pointing out that mate is impossible as even if the inferior side's K is in a corner the superior side's K can only cover two of the necessary four squares, and the minor piece cannot cover the other two as they are different colours. Out of the corner it is even more obviously impossible.

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Originally posted by calydon
Game 2391039

My opponent doesn't seem to realize this game is drawn. I haven't actually offered one yet, but I've tried to claim one, and RHP simply continues the match. Am I wrong about this being a draw?
Try offering a draw again. If your opponent still refuses you need to send feedback, asking Russ to intervene.

This situation has happened many times in the past. Russ has been aware for over 4 years that this is a problem, but it obviously doesn't rate highly on his to-do list. It's a bit disappointing. Every other chess site and chess software that I know of manages to implement the rules of chess. It's not rocket science.

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Originally posted by arrakis
Well XanthosNZ, you are rarely much help to anyone. Your priority was to slam me instead of inform others about that situation... You are totally useless. 😛
No, XanthoZ just lacks any kind of social skills. He is known for this.

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Fortunately my opponent did accept the draw.

But you're right, the software should be updated to include K+B vs K. and K+N vs. K at least, yes?

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