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  1. 25 May '09 19:39 / 1 edit
    A short game agaisn't an internationnal master, Regan, Kenneth, as black


    I just wonder how did I go wrong, some people said that I had a magnifiant and maybe winning final agaisn't him.

    Why did I lost ?

    here is the game.

  2. 25 May '09 20:11 / 5 edits
    Originally posted by Sophy
    A short game agaisn't an internationnal master, Regan, Kenneth, as black


    I just wonder how did I go wrong, some people said that I had a magnifiant and maybe winning final agaisn't him.

    Why did I lost ?

    here is the game.

    [pgn]1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bc4 Bg7 5.Qe2 0-0 6.e5 Nd7 7.e6 fxe6 8.Bxe6+ Kh8 9.Nf3 Nb6 10.Ng5 Nc6 11.d5 Nd4 12.Qe4 d5 13. ...[text shortened]... .exf7 e5 16. Qxd8 Rxd8 17.Kd1 Rf8 18.a4 c6 19.a5 Nc4 20. b3 Nd6 21.Ba3 N6b5 22. Nxb5 1-0[/pgn]
    This game is illegal. On move 11 he plays d5... You can't play d5 on move 12 if he has a pawn already there.

    If what is below is your game then I would say that 20...Nc4 is pretty horrible tactically and 7...fxe6 is pretty horrible period.

  3. 25 May '09 20:24 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    This game is illegal. On move 11 he plays d5... You can't play d5 on move 12 if he has a pawn already there.

    If what is below is your game then I would say that 20...Nc4 is pretty horrible tactically and 7...fxe6 is pretty horrible period.

    [pgn]1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bc4 Bg7 5.Qe2 0-0 6.e5 Nd7 7.e6 fxe6 8.Bxe6 Kh8 9.Nf3 Nb6 10.Ng5 Nc6 11.d5 Nd4 ...[text shortened]... 7 Rxf7 16.exf7 e5 17.Qxd8 Rxd8 18.Kd1 Rf8 19.a4 c6 20.a5 Nc4 21.b3 Nd6 22.Ba3 Nb5 23.Nxb5[/pgn]
    1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bc4 Bg7 5.Qe2 0-0 6.e5 Nd7 7.e6 fxe6 8.Bxe6+ Kh8 9.Nf3 Nb6 10.Ng5 Nc6? <-no knight can move there
  4. 25 May '09 20:26
    Originally posted by Romanticus
    1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bc4 Bg7 5.Qe2 0-0 6.e5 Nd7 7.e6 fxe6 8.Bxe6+ Kh8 9.Nf3 Nb6 10.Ng5 Nc6? <-no knight can move there
    The knight on b8 can move there.
  5. 25 May '09 20:29 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    The knight on b8 can move there.
    Oh,I get it: 5....,Nfd7
    That's probably why the pgn doesn't work
  6. 25 May '09 20:31
    Yeah, that is my game.


    I tought and fxe6 was my only possible defense, but I felt it was solid.

    Tought, near the endgame, even with the exange away, do I stand some chances ?
  7. 25 May '09 20:32 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Romanticus
    Oh,I get it: 5....,Nfd7
    That's probably why the pgn doesn't work
    Lol then you're moving the wrong knight. 6...Nfd7
  8. 25 May '09 20:34
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    Lol then you're moving the wrong knight. 5...Nfd7
    Yes,I wasn't looking at the game,just trying to fix the pgn.Quoted the wrong post too,meant to quote sophy's

    Having my head on wrong tonight
  9. 25 May '09 20:38
    Originally posted by Romanticus
    Yes,I wasn't looking at the game,just trying to fix the pgn.Quoted the wrong post too,meant to quote sophy's

    Having my head on wrong tonight
    Not to worry. When I saw that she skipped a move it took me a while to find 6...Nd7 and ...Nb5... The moves weren't specific enough since both knights could move there. I wasn't expecting another error after the skipped move since the rest of it "looked" ok.
  10. 25 May '09 22:18
    Why does everyone think I am a woman, I am not one.

    None of these new post helped me. yeah, forgot to put the f.
  11. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    26 May '09 00:45
    Originally posted by Sophy
    A short game agaisn't an internationnal master, Regan, Kenneth, as black


    I just wonder how did I go wrong, some people said that I had a magnifiant and maybe winning final agaisn't him.

    Why did I lost ?

    here is the game.

    [pgn]1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bc4 Bg7 5.Qe2 0-0 6.e5 Nd7 7.e6 fxe6 8.Bxe6+ Kh8 9.Nf3 Nb6 10.Ng5 Nc6 11.d5 Nd4 12.Qe4 d5 13. ...[text shortened]... 5.exf7 e5 16. Qxd8 Rxd8 17.Kd1 Rf8 18.a4 c6 19.a5 Nc4 20. b3 Nd6 21.Ba3 Nb5 22. Nxb5 1-0[/pgn]
    This game went sour for Black right out of the opening. Better is 5...Nc6, hitting the d4 pawn, or 5...c6, providing a better square for the Nf6 to move to after 6.e5 dxe5 7.dxe5 Nd5.

    The problem with 5...0-0 is that it simply lets white ram the pawn through to e6 without any drawbacks.

    [This analysis is highly paraphrased from GM Chernin's book on the Pirc.]
  12. 26 May '09 01:19
    Originally posted by Sophy
    Yeah, that is my game.


    I tought and fxe6 was my only possible defense, but I felt it was solid.

    Tought, near the endgame, even with the exange away, do I stand some chances ?
    Nope at least not after 20...Nc4 before that it might have been ok.


    If in that position fxe6 was the only move preventing mate it would still be a horrible move. You shouldn't allow a move like that to be your only defense. But in this case it wasn't your only defense. White isn't threatening an immediate win after e6 so there wasn't a pressing reason to play fxe6
  13. 26 May '09 01:28
    Right, Nc6 may be my move in the next game

    Tought Rybka analysis show me a solid defense after fxe6....


    Does the ending after a4 is good for black?
  14. 26 May '09 01:34 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Sophy
    Right, Nc6 may be my move in the next game

    Tought Rybka analysis show me a solid defense after fxe6....


    Does the ending after a4 is good for black?
    I am not an ending expert but after white plays a4 and a5 black should play ...Nc8 and be fine I think.

    Edit: whoops I forgot that white still has a knight but I don't see a immediate win for white after 20...Nc8.

    Edit2: I keep thinking of the position after 20...Nc4 but I don't know being down the exchange is enough here at first glance I would just try to trade all the pawns off and then you won't have anything to fear.
  15. 26 May '09 02:05 / 1 edit
    I tought about Rxf7, then if a5, the knight can move to c4 or c8 leaving the d undefended, but can he take it ?

    Edit : White is back on defensive and is a pawn down for the xexchange, so he should less chances then black here.

    It can be terrible if the black rook take some pawns on the second row.