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Originally posted by robbie carrobiePlay the QID and develop it to b7, or a6. Its a great bishop in QGD's just take a look at the catalan! Its a great piece to swap off white's more active light squared bishop in many openings.
Why is it? in the French defence it becomes purely passive, on the white side of the
Queens gambit its mince, in the Sicilian as black it gets swapped off on e6 , its always
causing problems, why is that?
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Originally posted by PhySiQSure, thats fine Q, when white plays 2.Nf3, i was just wondering what it is about the
Play the QID and develop it to b7, or a6. Its a great bishop in QGD's just take a look at the catalan! Its a great piece to swap off white's more active light squared bishop in many openings.
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dynamics of chess that make this a problem piece. No one hardly has any trouble
knowing what to do with their Kings bishop by comparison.
Originally posted by chesskid001Sure chesskid, i understand that, but when one thinks of the comparison with the Kings
The dark squared bishop (the Queen's bishop) is immensely important for White in the Sicilian Defense, which is why black tries to get rid of it.
bishop, its hardly ever a problem.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThats an interesting treatise. I would say it has to do with the most popular pawn skeletons. Its strong in KID/KIA and any transposition with d6 and e5. However in Tarrasch and French like skeletons the strength of the skeleton is from f7, and lies on light squares - reigning in the subject bishop. The Tarrasch pawn skeleton isn't necessarily more secure than Kings Indian, although many feel that way.
Sure, thats fine Q, when white plays 2.Nf3, i was just wondering what it is about the
dynamics of chess that make this a problem piece. No one hardly has any trouble
knowing what to do with their Kings bishop by comparison.
Its a piece thats very hard to strike central light square weaknesses after a pawn skeleton is built - without a6/b7 else b2/a3 placement due to its inherent time to develop.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieJust a guess. We know that kingside castling is quicker and more common than castling queenside. And if Black castles kingside then my light-squared bishop may target f7 or h7. Whereas, my dark-square bishop has only g7. So there's a "2 versus 1 options" in terms of which diagonals can be occupied when targetting the most common enemy king location. That may help make things easier for the light-squared bishop.
i was just wondering what it is about the dynamics of chess that make this a problem piece. No one hardly has any trouble knowing what to do with their Kings bishop by comparison.
In both the french and the QGD it's the sacrifice you make to get a solid centre as black. Defenses that allow you to freely develop that bishop are all less solid in the centre. Caro-kann and slav are exceptions but you play c5 in two moves rather than one in those, so pick what you like 🙂
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf black does not have his queen's bishop in the King's Indian Classical, his kingside attack is over.
Why is it? in the French defence it becomes purely passive, on the white side of the
Queens gambit its mince, in the Sicilian as black it gets swapped off on e6 , its always
causing problems, why is that?
(I stole that [paraphrased] from Kasparov, but the comment struck me as so direct when I read it that it imprinted on my brain for all time).
Originally posted by chesskid001Excellent point- we can embellish it to say that in any black fianchetto defense, exchanging for white's queen bishop is a moral victory and a practical path to equality. It's why white plays f3 and/or h3 in so many lines.
The dark squared bishop (the Queen's bishop) is immensely important for White in the Sicilian Defense, which is why black tries to get rid of it.
Originally posted by Paul LeggettI was going to say something similar about dutch leningrad. 🙂 it's a nice piece to have. just don't play those silly openings that completely bury it and you'll be fine. use it as the iron booted assassin the bishops are meant to be. 🙂
If black does not have his queen's bishop in the King's Indian Classical, his kingside attack is over.
(I stole that [paraphrased] from Kasparov, but the comment struck me as so direct when I read it that it imprinted on my brain for all time).
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Master Robbie - I have been in intense debate with myself as to expressing the worth of your queens bishop. Now I myself prefer its use in the QID. This being an opening I'm familiar with would like to share a classic with you. I'm assuming basic familiarity with the QID and fianchetto systems in general. One of the most dynamic defenses of the Colle system (a favorite of yours I've noticed!) is in fact a Queen's Indian style set-up. White's pawn push to e4 attacks empty space. Black instead poises his pieces to undermine White's center. The technique is well illustrated in the 1929 game between Colle and Jose Capablanca.
I have chosen this game especially because it is well annotated in many texts - with the intention that you may study yourself should you find disagreement in my assessments of this great game. Kings to you robbie!
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Originally posted by PhySiQMaybe you'd consider authoring a rival blog to mister greenpawn34? 😉
Master Robbie - I have been in intense debate with myself as to expressing the worth of your queens bishop. Now I myself prefer its use in the QID. This being an opening I'm familiar with would like to share a classic with you. I'm assuming basic familiarity with the QID and fianchetto systems in general. One of the most dynamic defenses of the Colle syst ...[text shortened]... exf5 31. fxe5 Re7 32. Re3 Qxb2 33. e6 dxe6 34. Rxe6 Kf7 0-1[/pgn]
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