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Why is this game drawn?  I shoud know better

Why is this game drawn? I shoud know better

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Game 2338930 Ok, I am ready for a torrent of abuse from all you chess fanatics but I cannot understand why this game was drawn. My understanding is that if 3 IDENTICAL moves are repeated then the game is drawn, but three moves weren't consequitvely repeated by me or my opponent. Please advise.

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The position does not have to be repeated three times consecutively, it can happen any time during the game and be seperated by many moves. Dem's da roooolz of teh chess.

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Originally posted by pinnacle
Game 2338930 Ok, I am ready for a torrent of abuse from all you chess fanatics but I cannot understand why this game was drawn. My understanding is that if 3 IDENTICAL moves are repeated then the game is drawn, but three moves weren't consequitvely repeated by me or my opponent. Please advise.
It's not about the repetition of moves, but the repetition of a position.

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Ok, so the repitition of a position can occur throughout the game, they don't have to be consequetive. Meaning we have repeated these moves at some point during the game ?

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Originally posted by pinnacle
Ok, so the repitition of a position can occur throughout the game, they don't have to be consequetive. Meaning we have repeated these moves at some point during the game ?
Nothing to do with "same moves", just same positions.

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That is right...is that what happened? I haven't looked at the game

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Originally posted by pinnacle
Ok, so the repitition of a position can occur throughout the game, they don't have to be consequetive. Meaning we have repeated these moves at some point during the game ?
yes.,
move 47b, 49b, and 51b.
Note.. since pawns cannot move backwards.. once a pawn moves forward, or a player castles, all count for repetition starts over, as its no longer a similar board position. The confusion people have, is they think three repeated moves, but its when the board is in the same position 3 times. .

edit: Ragnorak beat me to it .. I have to type faster

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Thank you ladies and gents, that makes perfect sense.

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It should be added that it has to be the same player's move, and the castling rights have to be the same.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
It should be added that it has to be the same player's move, and the castling rights have to be the same.
Really? Man....now that is something I wasn't aware of.......and just when I thought I knew it all.
No, I'm not being sarcastic, that really is some interesting info.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
It should be added that it has to be the same player's move, and the castling rights have to be the same.
I don't think the castling rights must take into consideration.
Even the same players move.
Isn't it enough with three identical positions?
(I might be wrong here...)

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
I don't think the castling rights must take into consideration.
Even the same players move.
Isn't it enough with three identical positions?
(I might be wrong here...)
No, castling rights and which players move are all taken into consideration. if the position is the same by white moving there does not count if the board position is the same when black made the last move.

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Originally posted by MIODude
No, castling rights and which players move are all taken into consideration. if the position is the same by white moving there does not count if the board position is the same when black made the last move.
Yes, I fold.
FIDE rule 9.2 regulate this.
Also including that the en passant rights should be the same.

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The exact same *position* must be identical three times: so that includes the right to castle, and also the right to execute an en passant capture.

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Originally posted by bosintang
The exact same *position* must be identical three times: so that includes the right to castle, and also the right to execute an en passant capture.
Also it has to be claimed! on yahoo chess the game automatically draws which is incorrect, as no one has claimed the draw. Although I have to say this is where I actually learned (quite a while ago) that it was the position rather than the move, because as a child I was taught this rule wrongly.