22 Feb 10
I played a game as Black, recovered after a poor opening- then lost when I *thought* I had an advantage and position. I backed up a few moves to where I thought my troubles were rooted (move #30); playing it out in WinBoard always allowed my opponent to win. The position is inherently flawed.
Why?
22 Feb 10
Originally posted by rapabstI didn't really look but ...Nxd4 cxd4 Nxd4 followed by Ne2+ looks winning to me. But, don't quote me that was just the first move i looked at.
I played a game as Black, recovered after a poor opening- then lost when I *thought* I had an advantage and position. I backed up a few moves to where I thought my troubles were rooted (move #30); playing it out in WinBoard always allowed my opponent to win. The position is inherently flawed.
Why?
[fen]6k1/4rppp/2n5/pp1q1n2/3Pr3/1PP2QP1/P2B3P/3R1RK1 w - - 0 1[/fen]
22 Feb 10
Originally posted by clandarkfireThats all I've got too. If its white to move then black is losing, if its black to move then black is winning
Assuming that position is w/ black to play, black is winning; he is a piece up. If it's white to play he just plays QxN.
A bit of a trebuchet really
22 Feb 10
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Originally posted by clandarkfireI seen the piece up by black, also assumed black to play because he played black and said this was his problem position(its not even worth looking at with white to move). The piece isn't that great of an advantage here either, white has space and two extra pawns on the queen side, white is dangerous on the f file and the knights have no support points while whites bishop can be very active. Also if the knight retreats then white has the initiative. Hence, the line i gave above. sorry for the edits 😳
Assuming that position is w/ black to play, black is winning; he is a piece up. If it's white to play he just plays QxN.
22 Feb 10
Originally posted by rking00Well with black to move i'm pretty positive ...Nxd4 is winning but the answer to the op's question is that a piece is en prise, thats why its terrible. (plus what i said in my previous post)
Okay, I guess it is white to move then. The diagram shows the position after 30.. Nd6f5.
Nxd4 still looks decent, but I don't know if it's winning.
22 Feb 10
Originally posted by rapabstAfter Qxf5 white's position:
I played a game as Black, recovered after a poor opening- then lost when I *thought* I had an advantage and position. I backed up a few moves to where I thought my troubles were rooted (move #30); playing it out in WinBoard always allowed my opponent to win. The position is inherently flawed.
Why?
[fen]6k1/4rppp/2n5/pp1q1n2/3Pr3/1PP2QP1/P2B3P/3R1RK1 w - - 0 1[/fen]
-an extra pawn
-a connected passer
-a 4 to 2 queenside pawn majority
-a bishop vs knight in an open position
-kingposition is opened
Black's position:
-there is a lot to worry about!
Advantage white 🙂
