Originally posted by Monyets tikuslol
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jwerchadlo
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jwerchadlo
Jeronimo
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jwerchadlo
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jwerchadlo
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observe how he moving in all games except the hopeless one against me.
what a loser
is he brave enough to post in the thread and explain i wonder?
Originally posted by villa68Thank you to the person who made me aware of this thread. Here is the message log from our game and a message sent to me from Monyets. After being called annoying and rude, I decided to show this whining baby what annoying and rude really is.
lol
what a loser
is he brave enough to post in the thread and explain i wonder?
Message: i notice u took my advise and posted ur policy
may i ask will u resign when u only have a king left?
37 White a 4 pawn lead in the endgame is won i think, do you want to keep playing it out, if so till when may i ask(your decision, if you want then you want)
37 Black I prefer to always play every game out. I do not resign. Sorry. 🙂
38 White u should put in your profile that you play out to mate hopeless situations, i certainly would have played a different person
47 White find you most annoying to say the least, but the choice is ur's, so go ahead and play on
47 Black You are right. The choice is mine.
48 White and moving slower than normal while moving in your other games(only one realistic move other than resignation, are you trying to be extra rude or what?) my next move is h4 and then robaly h5, then i'll advance my king up the board, and advance my f pawn to be a queen, unless you make an error and let my h pawn be a queen, i'll then checkmate in less than 10 moves (interesting side point, there is no position of king+queen vs king than cannot be mate in less than 10 moves)
48 Black What?
49 White you realy are being rude now, I see you move in every other game except this one.
Originally posted by jwerchadloI was the person who made you aware of the thread.
Thank you to the person who made me aware of this thread. Here is the message log from our game and a message sent to me from Monyets. After being called annoying and rude, I decided to show this whining baby what annoying and rude really is.
Message: i notice u took my advise and posted ur policy
may i ask will u resign when u only have a king ...[text shortened]...
49 White you realy are being rude now, I see you move in every other game except this one.
the comments in game that you post seem to only make you look worse, looking at the position in that game and the post about you slow playing the game
may i ask why you do this?
Originally posted by villa68Spite, of course. Didn't you read what he said?
I was the person who made you aware of the thread.
the comments in game that you post seem to only make you look worse, looking at the position in that game and the post about you slow playing the game
may i ask why you do this?
I don't understand why people play games with ridiculously slow time controls and lengthy timebanks, then complain when their opponent takes several days to move. Wasn't that the agreement?!? If you don't have the patience to wait 7 days for a move, then why not play move/3 days or move/1 day? Problem solved. Just time his @$$ out if he stops moving.
I also have little patience or sympathy for those who demand that their opponent resign. A player has every right to play the game out until the bitter end if they so choose.
Originally posted by davfraI played in the International Open in British Columbia one time. It was the last time Walter Browne and Paul Keres ever played together.
My opponent was moving several times a day. Then he lost a queen and a rook for a bishop and now he hasn`t moved for 3 days.
This game is so boring sometimes.
I would have resigned by now but even if I didn`t, I would be too proud to hang it out like this.
Against another A player, I achieved a win in the Lucenia positon... my oponent offered me a draw which I refused. Then he told me that because we had been moving fast, he had an hour and a half to burn, and that he would leave the game and return 1 hour and a half later!
He left and I promptly filed a complaint with the tournament director, BUT the TD told me that my opponent was within his FULL RIGHTS to use whatever time he wished! 🙁
Soooo, I said, "Fine! and when he returns *I* too have an hour and a half - and YOU can just stay here and wait for 3 hours while this game concludes! 😠
It only took 5 minutes to see my opponent return.
Of course you don't have the same pressure here at RHP, but I have a suggestion for you. Take on other games and just put the one on a back burner. In chess you have to learn to be patient. 😉
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemwaiting 7 days is fine but when an opponent shows that they are moving in all their other games
Spite, of course. Didn't you read what he said?
I don't understand why people play games with ridiculously slow time controls and lengthy timebanks, then complain when their opponent takes several days to move. Wasn't that the agreement?!? If you don't have the patience to wait 7 days for a move, then why not play move/3 days or move/1 day? Pro ...[text shortened]... esign. A player has every right to play the game out until the bitter end if they so choose.
when they have a lone king only
when their opponent has shown they are of sufficient ability not to mess it up
the resignation is expected or at the very least playing the game at the same rate as other games they are playing.
this person is being rude, plain and simple
Originally posted by Monyets tikusIf somebody was hassling me to resign during a game, I might well do that same thing.
waiting 7 days is fine but when an opponent shows that they are moving in all their other games
when they have a lone king only
when their opponent has shown they are of sufficient ability not to mess it up
the resignation is expected or at the very least playing the game at the same rate as other games they are playing.
this person is being rude, plain and simple
Its a correspondence chess site, take a chill, and play your other games.
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Originally posted by RagnorakMonyets tikus seems to be only playing 1 game
If somebody was hassling me to resign during a game, I might well do that same thing.
Its a correspondence chess site, take a chill, and play your other games.
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I seem to agree with monyets though
the person is being rude playing in all their games except that one
Originally posted by villa68Hmmm... I was about to say that opponents who don't resign and stretch out the game as long as possible are much more annoying when you are a non-subscriber and can't play more than six games, but if Monyets only plays one game, I don't really see the problem. I find jwerchadlo's behaviour rather childish, but if you can start a new game with someone else, it doesn't really matter whether the game lasts some more months or not, does it?
Monyets tikus seems to be only playing 1 game
Originally posted by Monyets tikusGame management is the player's business, much like resignation. It doesn't matter if a player is moving in all games but one. That's his right. The time control's agreed upon in advance by both players, so it can't properly be called rude when a player doesn't move any sooner than the time control requires.
waiting 7 days is fine but when an opponent shows that they are moving in all their other games
when they have a lone king only
when their opponent has shown they are of sufficient ability not to mess it up
the resignation is expected or at the very least playing the game at the same rate as other games they are playing.
this person is being rude, plain and simple
The player with the lone King has the right to play for stalemate.
There is no such thing as 'sufficient ability' not to mess up a won game. As long as the game is played by humans, nobody is immune!
'Expected resignations' are rubbish. If you don't have the patience and/or consistency to play the game all the way until checkmate, then perhaps chess isn't for you.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemare you saying you might draw against a lone king?
Game management is the player's business, much like resignation. It doesn't matter if a player is moving in all games but one. That's his right. The time control's agreed upon in advance by both players, so it can't properly be called rude when a player doesn't move any sooner than the time control requires.
The player with the lone King has ...[text shortened]... /or consistency to play the game all the way until checkmate, then perhaps chess isn't for you.
last time i did that was early when i started playing chess when rated around 1000
I have never seen anyone over 1100 rating in otb or on the net not win against a lone king in situations like the one in the game.
monyets seems to have ther games on the site and is rated over 1400, looking at the other games shows a lot more skill than is needed to beat a lone king
the right to slow play in a completely lost position is in the rules but not in the spirit of the game.
this is the reason it is rude.
if i were to play a friend in a long time control game of 2 hours each and i had mate in 1 after 10 min on their time, i would expect a resignation, if they made me wait fo the 2 hours even though it is their right, i would see them as being very rude and would probaly decline to play them in the future.
in a tourney in cork a few years ago, i was playing a guy and he walked away from the game when he had 1 hour on his clock and was in a completely losing position. he returned only with a few min on his clock so he not have to take his moves down. i then did the same thing and waited for my time to go under 5 min. i was very annoyed by his behaviour and can't understand how someone can be so disrespectful in a game like chess.
Originally posted by villa68I barely notice if my opponents aren't moving. Maybe that's because I just get on with my other games. If they don't want to move that's their problem. Either they'll move eventually or I time them out when the skull comes up. Until then I'll just play in my other 40 odd games.
are you saying you might draw against a lone king?
last time i did that was early when i started playing chess when rated around 1000
I have never seen anyone over 1100 rating in otb or on the net not win against a lone king in situations like the one in the game.
monyets seems to have ther games on the site and is rated over 1400, looking at ...[text shortened]... his behaviour and can't understand how someone can be so disrespectful in a game like chess.
The only time I'll message a person asking them to resign is when our game is holding up the next round of a tourney or similar.
When I have a forced mate I'll message the opponent it. If they agree they can resign. If they don't then when I come back to the game it's right there for me in the message log. Making my move takes about 5 seconds that way.
It's just a game. Who cares?
Originally posted by villa68Endgame studies show that someone who may appear to be losing in fact has resources to force a draw.
are you saying you might draw against a lone king?
last time i did that was early when i started playing chess when rated around 1000
I have never seen anyone over 1100 rating in otb or on the net not win against a lone king in situations like the one in the game.
monyets seems to have ther games on the site and is rated over 1400, looking at ...[text shortened]... his behaviour and can't understand how someone can be so disrespectful in a game like chess.
I might very well draw against a lone King in a tough endgame like K+N+B v. K, or K+N+N v. K+P (some versions of that endgame have a tough, yet forced win, if I recall). I might stalemate a lone King due to a careless move. It's not likely, but certainly possible.
You don't understand the spirit of the game. You would deprive a player of the right to fight and save a lost game in the name of some questionable 'ethical obligation' to capitulate. Resignation is to save the losing player from further agony, if he wishes, and not to make the winning player's life easier.
Your OTB comparison isn't valid. A player who leaves the board for one hour is quite different from one who sits and thinks for an hour (even in a lost position). In correspondence chess, you can't the difference between the two.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemYour OTB comparison isn't valid. A player who leaves the board for one hour is quite different from one who sits and thinks for an hour (even in a lost position). In correspondence chess, you can't the difference between the two.
Endgame studies show that someone who may appear to be losing in fact has resources to force a draw.
I might very well draw against a lone King in a tough endgame like K+N+B v. K, or K+N+N v. K+P (some versions of that endgame have a tough, yet forced win, if I recall). I might stalemate a lone King due to a careless move. It's not likely, but cer ...[text shortened]... r (even in a lost position). In correspondence chess, you can't the difference between the two.
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go look at the game, explain to me how that games gets 1 week of thought while his other games take a day.
he is doing just as my opponent did otb
walking away and only moving when he has to
Originally posted by villa68Actually I'd rather compare what he's doing with what you were doing in that otb game. In both cases, it is/was a childish reaction (wasting time to annoy the opponent) to annoying behaviour (in his case being pressed to resign - if I understand it correctly, he didn't start moving extremely slowly before the messages from his opponent became more rude and he got annoyed -, in your case an opponent wasting time to annoy you).
Your OTB comparison isn't valid. A player who leaves the board for one hour is quite different from one who sits and thinks for an hour (even in a lost position). In correspondence chess, you can't the difference between the two.
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go look at the game, explain to me how that games gets ...[text shortened]... day.
he is doing just as my opponent did otb
walking away and only moving when he has to