Ameteur suicide chess puzzle

White to play and draw

Originally posted by doodinthemood
[fen]8/4k3/8/8/7Q/8/4K3/7b w[/fen]
White to play and draw

1.Qxh1.

Leave Q in corner, and wK in SW corner [a1]. Black's K is stuck in the NE corner and he can make no progress.

hmph, I'm really not that good at analysing my own puzzles. Still, it's a reasonably nice combination when you look at how Qxh1, Kf6, Qd1 wins for black.

Originally posted by doodinthemood
hmph, I'm really not that good at analysing my own puzzles. Still, it's a reasonably nice combination when you look at how Qxh1, Kf6, Qd1 wins for black.

The line you're looking for [after 1.Qxh1 Kf6 2.Qd1??] is 2...Kf5! 3.Qe1 [every other move loses immediately] 3...Ke5! and White is in zugzwang.

White to play? Is that some chess variant? If not I would just eat the king?

Legal schmegal

Originally posted by ivan2908
White to play? Is that some chess variant? If not I would just eat the king?

exactly how can white be to play if black is in check

Originally posted by HurricaneConway125
exactly how can white be to play if black is in check

Black's not in check.

Originally posted by doodinthemood
[fen]8/4k3/8/8/7Q/8/4K3/7b[/fen]
White to play and draw

Qxe7 draw... white cannot mate black and black cannot mate white.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Black's not in check.

????

Due to the posts of confusion, I'll try to explain Suicide Chess to the best of my ability.

I'm assuming in Suicide Chess, capturing is obligatory (however, the turn player can choose the piece he wishes to take) and victory is obtained after losing every piece. In this variation the king or bishop can be captured. However:
1. Qxe7 Bf3
2. Kxf3
loses for White. Therefore:
1. Qxh1
must be made. Black also has to be careful, since Kd7, Kd6, and Ke6 draws to Qc6 for the first two and Qd5 for the last two. That leaves 5 moves for Black.

We shall see why 1. ... Kd8 also draws here. This may be easier if you have a chessboard where you can move the pieces yourself.

1. ...... Kd8
2. Qh6!

Ke7 and Ke8 draws to Qf8. Kc7 and Kd7 draws to Qd6. That leaves:

2. ..... Kc8
3. Qg6 Kb8
4. Qf6 Ka8
5. Qe6

Kb7 and Kb8 draws to Qc8. Ka7 draws to Qa6. White draws.

Back from the original position, that leaves 4 moves for Black.

Well, I can't figure out quickly why the other 4 moves don't work, but I hope you get the gist of Suicide Chess. Also, SwissGambit's first response is pretty much correct, a king cannot go past a diagonal without capturing the Queen if the diagonal was there before the King was near it.

Originally posted by Gastel
????

He's also in no danger of being taken. White has a better move.

Originally posted by twilight2007
Due to the posts of confusion, I'll try to explain Suicide Chess to the best of my ability.

I'm assuming in Suicide Chess, capturing is obligatory (however, the turn player can choose the piece he wishes to take) and victory is obtained after losing every piece. In this variation the king or bishop can be captured. However:
1. Qxe7 Bf3
2. Kxf3
los ...[text shortened]... diagonal without capturing the Queen if the diagonal was there before the King was near it.

Ah. I've always called it Killer Chess. I missed the importance in the title.

Originally posted by doodinthemood
[fen]8/4k3/8/8/7Q/8/4K3/7b[/fen]
White to play and draw

Qxa1 and then you hide behind the king if black tries to come close to force white to take then he loses because the queen can get right next to him

^hiding behind the king is a loss,

qxa1, Kf6, qe1, Kf5