another nice mate in 2...

crazyblue

Posers and Puzzles

10 Nov 06 18:47

kbaumen

Sigulda, Latvia

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11 Nov 06 21:18

Originally posted by iraqi insurgent
you were right slayer.....

a knight move is the answer

No, it's not a knight move.

iraqi insurgent

Joined: 06 Jul 06
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12 Nov 06 18:40

3 edits

Originally posted by crazyblue
...by Sam Loyd again.

[fen]3r3r/pbp2pbp/1p5q/8/Q6P/B2B1PPN/1R2P1N1/2k1nK1R w - - 0 1[/fen]

must have been the dwarfs then

kbaumen

Sigulda, Latvia

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12 Nov 06 21:25

Originally posted by iraqi insurgent
must have been the dwarfs then

Which piece you think is a dwarf?

Darrie

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12 Nov 06 22:59

May i ask whats wrong with Nxe1? i dont see a way for black to keep white from mating with Qc2, exept for Qd2 which runs into Rb1#

crazyblue

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12 Nov 06 23:09

Originally posted by Darrie
May i ask whats wrong with Nxe1? i dont see a way for black to keep white from mating with Qc2, exept for Qd2 which runs into Rb1#

I think 1. .. Qc6 would also cover 2. Qc2-mate and leaves the king an escape square after 2. Rb1

mrstabby

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13 Nov 06 01:22

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deathwolf923410

Nara Shikamaru

Village of Konaha

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13 Nov 06 01:48

I think I have it, but I'm not sure, and you said not to post yet 🙂. Does it involve moving your king?

Darrie

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13 Nov 06 14:17

No it doesnt,
ah i see, i missed Qc6 Ra2+ Bb2,

kbaumen

Sigulda, Latvia

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13 Nov 06 16:47

People, this puzzle is composed by Loyd. It means that all the moves that seem obvious are wrong. At first glance, the solution move for this puzzle looks totally stupid, but after looking more at it, you can't find a way, how black can escape mate in one, although he has many answers to this move. So, as all Loyd's puzzles do, this one also brings you aesthetic pleasure, especially, if you solve it yourself.

Darrie

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13 Nov 06 18:01

I solved the puzzle correctly but then i didnt see a way to defend against Nxe1 no more, though I knew I once thought it to be wrong and I just couldnt see it. Call it blindness or whatever 😛

kbaumen

Sigulda, Latvia

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13 Nov 06 18:15

Originally posted by Darrie
I solved the puzzle correctly but then i didnt see a way to defend against Nxe1 no more, though I knew I once thought it to be wrong and I just couldnt see it. Call it blindness or whatever 😛

1. Nxe1 Qc6!

deathwolf923410

Nara Shikamaru

Village of Konaha

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14 Nov 06 00:48

2 edits

Edit2- Ok i think i got it now. 1. Kxe1 2. Rb1

BigDogg

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14 Nov 06 02:41

Originally posted by deathwolf923410
Edit2- Ok i think i got it now. 1. Kxe1 2. Rb1

1...Bc3+ or 1...Qd2+ spoils that idea.

Marsan

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14 Nov 06 03:32

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Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
1...Bc3+ or 1...Qd2+ spoils that idea.

Neither of these replies to Kxe1 prevent mate on the next move.

i.e.
1. Kxe1 Bc3+ 2. Rd2#

1. Kxe1 Qd2+ 2. Rxd2#

Where deathwolf got it wrong was white's second move which is contingent on black's reply to Kxe1

SPOILER ALERT

Look down only if you want to see my solution (which comes with NO garuantees of accuracy)

A sample of possible responses to Kxe1

1. Kxe1 Bc3+ 2. Rd2#

1. Kxe1 Qd2+ 2. Rxd2#

1. Kxe1 Rxd3 2. Qc2#

1. Kxe1 Bxb2 2. Qc2# or Qd1#

The beauty of Kxe1 is that is gives white so many mating possibilities

Qd1, Qc2, any horizontal move for the rook on b2... No reply by black will cover all these possibliities. A very nice puzzle IMO.

Ian68

Joined: 16 Oct 06
Moves: 4532

14 Nov 06 04:27

1. Kxe1 Qc6+ 2. ?