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Posers and Puzzles

Posers and Puzzles

  1. Standard member royalchicken
    CHAOS GHOST!!!
    30 Aug '03 04:44
    I take a standard bowling ball. I get into a rowboat with the bowling ball and row out into a lake. I then toss the ball overboard. What happens to the water level of the lake?
  2. Standard member Cheshire Cat
    Sparky
    30 Aug '03 04:48
    Originally posted by royalchicken
    I take a standard bowling ball. I get into a rowboat with the bowling ball and row out into a lake. I then toss the ball overboard. What happens to the water level of the lake?
    At which point?
  3. Standard member royalchicken
    CHAOS GHOST!!!
    30 Aug '03 04:57
    Originally posted by Cheshire Cat
    At which point?
    Oh. Yeah. After the ball falls into the water.
  4. Standard member Cheshire Cat
    Sparky
    30 Aug '03 04:59
    Originally posted by royalchicken
    Oh. Yeah. After the ball falls into the water.
    LOL!! I would imagine that the water level stays the same since it would have changed minutely when you got on the boat. Could be wrong though...happens oftern enough.
  5. Standard member royalchicken
    CHAOS GHOST!!!
    30 Aug '03 05:04
    Well, I'm in the boat before and after, so it shouldn't have any effect. Although if you like, I am 116 pounds and about the same density as water

    Or if you like assume that the ball goes into the boat, which gets shoved into the middle of the lake, then the ball rolls out.
  6. Standard member Cheshire Cat
    Sparky
    30 Aug '03 05:12
    Originally posted by royalchicken
    Well, I'm in the boat before and after, so it shouldn't have any effect. Although if you like, I am 116 pounds and about the same density as water

    Or if you like assume that the ball goes into the boat, which gets shoved into the middle of the lake, then the ball rolls out.
    LOL!! It is the same answer. The water level wouldn't change until you got back on land. The bowling ball becomes superfluous.
  7. Standard member royalchicken
    CHAOS GHOST!!!
    30 Aug '03 05:14
    I meant (again...explanation is apparently not my bag ) that I'm not in the boat at all.
  8. Standard member Cheshire Cat
    Sparky
    30 Aug '03 05:24
    Originally posted by royalchicken
    I meant (again...explanation is apparently not my bag ) that I'm not in the boat at all.
    Well, if we take you out of the boat all together.....whose going to row it? Just kidding....I would say that: 1) When the ball gets on the boat the water level rises; and, 2)when it falls off the boat (perhaps through third party levitation ) the water level stays the same. Is this also incorrect?
  9. Standard member royalchicken
    CHAOS GHOST!!!
    30 Aug '03 05:36
    The first is correct. The ball is displacing its weight. But when it falls in, does the water (third party ) care how heavy it is, or just how big?
  10. Standard member Cheshire Cat
    Sparky
    30 Aug '03 05:38
    Originally posted by royalchicken
    The first is correct. The ball is displacing its weight. But when it falls in, does the water (third party ) care how heavy it is, or just how big?
    It's been quite a while since I was in any kind of science class; but, it seems to me that it has to do with density, not size.
  11. Standard member royalchicken
    CHAOS GHOST!!!
    30 Aug '03 05:40
    Right. And what is density...?
  12. Standard member Cheshire Cat
    Sparky
    30 Aug '03 05:49
    Originally posted by royalchicken
    Right. And what is density...?
    LOL!! Oh, my brain...so much stuff to sort through...it seems that density is how much mass is actually there; as opposed to weight, which is a measure of gravitational pull on mass.....
  13. Standard member royalchicken
    CHAOS GHOST!!!
    30 Aug '03 05:54
    Right. Density is the amount of mass per unit of volume (size). So the mass of the ball displaces water in the boat....but what about out of the boat? Is the ball denser than water?
  14. Standard member Cheshire Cat
    Sparky
    30 Aug '03 05:56
    Originally posted by royalchicken
    Right. Density is the amount of mass per unit of volume (size). So the mass of the ball displaces water in the boat....but what about out of the boat? Is the ball denser than water?
    Just a thought, but it would seem that, being a solid, the ball by definition would have to be denser than water, which as we know is a liquid.
  15. Standard member royalchicken
    CHAOS GHOST!!!
    30 Aug '03 06:00 / 1 edit
    Bingo. So when we talk about a ball displacing its mass worth of water (in the boat), and its volume worth (in the water), which is the bigger displacement?

    That's two posts for me on the hour, 1&2 am EST. Weird