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    26 Aug '06 20:012 edits
    First, please see here this mate in 127 by O. T. Blathy and it's solution:

    http://www2.forthnet.gr/chess/chmin127.html

    Now, J. Halumbirek composed another version of this problem, to make the solution longer. This is Halumbirek's mate in 130:



    But I don't know the solution. Of course I assume it is very similar to the original one's solution, but still I can't solve it. Can someone help, please? thanks.
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    26 Aug '06 21:532 edits
    Originally posted by David113
    First, please see here this mate in 127 by O. T. Blathy and it's solution:

    http://www2.forthnet.gr/chess/chmin127.html

    Now, J. Halumbirek composed another version of this problem, to make the solution longer. This is Halumbirek's mate in 130:

    [fen]8/p6p/7p/p6p/b2Q3p/K6p/p1r5/rk3n1n w - - 0 1[/fen]

    But I don't know the solution. Of course I assu ...[text shortened]... the original one's solution, but still I can't solve it. Can someone help, please? thanks.
    This one should be easy, given the knowledge of Blathy's problem.

    First, clean up the 'extraneous' pieces with checks:
    1.Qd1+ Rc1 2.Qd3+ Rc2 3.Qxf1+ Rc1 4.Qd3+ Rc2 5.Qd1+ Rc1 6.Qd2 Rc2 7.Qe1+ Rc1 8.Qe4+ Rc2 9.Qxh1+ Rc1 10.Qe4+ Rc2 11.Qe1+ Rc1 12.Qd2 Rc2 13.Qd1+ Rc1 14.Qd3+ Rc2 15.Qe4 (zugzwang)

    After every non-promoting pawn move, White has to make 5 moves to restore zugzwang (Qe1+/Qd2/Qd1+/Qd3+/Qe4).

    After every promotion (except the last) White has to make 7 moves to restore zugzwang (Qxh1+/Qe4+ before the above 5-move sequence).

    After the last promotion, White has the much stronger Qxh1+/Qh7!/Qe4 to restore zugzwang.

    When Ba4 finally moves, White finishes up with Q(e4)-e1+ Rc1 Qd2 Rc2 Qd1+ Rc1 Q(x)b3#.

    Add this all up, and you get:

    15 (initial moves)
    16*5=80 (restore zug after 16 non-promoting pawn moves)
    4*7=28 (restore zug after 4 pawn promotions)
    3 (restore zug after the last pawn promotes)
    4 (finish up after Ba4 moves)
    ---
    130 moves
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    26 Aug '06 22:44
    Thanks, you are great 🙂

    This problem holds the length record for orthodox minimal problems (=white has one man except king) in which the main variation is dual-free, i.e. all white moves are the only ones that force mate in the given number of moves.

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