1. DonationAcolyte
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    04 Jun '04 07:34
    Originally posted by howardbradley
    Is the rule this: how many times can n be divided by 2 before a fractional result is produced?

    Put another way, what is the power of 2 in the (unique) factorization of n.

    e.g. 56 = 2^3 x 7 - the power of 2 is odd
    100 = 2^2 x 5^2 - power of 2 is even
    11235840 = 2^9 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 x 19 - power of 2 is odd
    Correct!
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    04 Jun '04 12:20
    Originally posted by howardbradley
    Is the rule this: how many times can n be divided by 2 before a fractional result is produced?

    Put another way, what is the power of 2 in the (unique) factorization of n.

    e.g. 56 = 2^3 x 7 - the power of 2 is odd
    100 = 2^2 x 5^2 - power of 2 is even
    11235840 = 2^9 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 x 19 - power of 2 is odd
    That's what I thought too - the operation mentioned in the question where two elements of the same type combine to make even, and two elements of different types combine to make odd, is multiplication.
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    Originally posted by iamatiger
    That's what I thought too - the operation mentioned in the question where two elements of the same type combine to make even, and two elements of different types combine to make odd, is multiplication.
    Indeed. The next set is the set of patterns that can be made by colouring in an even number of squares on an infinite grid, like this (the 8s represent coloured squares):

    888
    080
    080 is ODD
    080

    800
    080 is EVEN
    808
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    The rule is whether the number of letter is the spelling of the number is odd or even. For example, 2 is spelt "two", which has 3 letters, 3 is odd, so 2 is odd.

    Now why doesn't Red Hot Pawn let people key or select from a pop-up list how often they're prepared to move when they invite someone for a game. I could be offering to move every 5 minutes, someone who is prapred to do the same could accept the invitation and I could be doing what I cam here for ... playing chess !
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    uChess link at the bottom of the page...sadly is mostly empty when i go...but if more people knew about it....
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    Ah, i was thinking along the lines of the sum of prime divisors and later the sum of the primepowers 🙂
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    Originally posted by STANG
    The rule is whether the number of letter is the spelling of the number is odd or even. For example, 2 is spelt "two", which has 3 letters, 3 is odd, so 2 is odd.

    Now why doesn't Red Hot Pawn let people key or select from a pop-up list how often they're prepared to move when they invite someone for a game. I could be offering to move every 5 minutes, som ...[text shortened]... e same could accept the invitation and I could be doing what I cam here for ... playing chess !
    Guess again:

    88 is EVEN

    8800
    0808 is ODD
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    05 Jun '04 23:461 edit
    Originally posted by Acolyte
    Indeed. The next set is the set of patterns that can be made by colouring in an even number of squares on an infinite grid, like this (the 8s represent coloured squares):

    888
    080
    080 is ODD
    080

    800
    080 is EVEN
    808
    Hmm, is there still some operation that combines odd & even to make odd and otherwise makes even?

    how about these patterns:?

    888
    808
    888

    88088
    80008
    80008
    88088

    8088
    8000
    0008
    8808
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    06 Jun '04 07:471 edit
    Originally posted by iamatiger
    Hmm, is there still some operation that combines odd & even to make odd and otherwise makes even?
    Yes, though you don't have to tell me the exact procedure, just the general idea.

    888
    808 is EVEN
    888

    88088
    80008
    80008 is EVEN
    88088

    8088
    8000
    0008 is EVEN
    8808

    I don't think it's giving too much away to point out that the position of the pattern on the lattice is irrelevant - you don't need to indicate where (0,0) is, in case you were wondering.
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    No takers? I assure you that this is a parity property. The property should be familiar to those who've seen the following puzzle:

    'Take a chessboard, and cover two diagonally opposite corners with coins. Can you cover the rest of the board with dominoes (which occupy two squares on the chessboard)?'
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    Bump (for the benefit of royalchicken)
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    22 Jun '04 08:19
    Originally posted by howardbradley

    Put another way, what is the power of 2 in the (unique) factorization of n.
    But 3 is even...
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    Originally posted by Acolyte
    No takers? I assure you that this is a parity property. The property should be familiar to those who've seen the following puzzle:

    'Take a chessboard, and cover two diagonally opposite corners with coins. Can you cover the rest of the board with dominoes (which occupy two squares on the chessboard)?'
    Well, for starters, opposite corners are the same color. Each domino covers one black and one white square, but after you've covered corners, you have 32 squares of one color and 30 of another, so you can't do the domino thang.

    Now a few examples of sets you'd call even:

    880
    008
    888

    0880
    8008
    8008

    8808
    0888
    8800

    Some odd ones:

    000
    080
    888

    0880
    8008
    0088

    00888008000880
    88800880088000
    88880000008808



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    Not quite. As I have said, the property I'm using is a parity property, so there has to be some way of combining the patterns that preserves total parity. You've got the parity of your examples correct, except that

    0880
    8008 is EVEN
    0088
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    23 Jun '04 16:26
    Originally posted by Acolyte
    Not quite. As I have said, the property I'm using is a parity property, so there has to be some way of combining the patterns that preserves total parity. You've got the parity of your examples correct, except that

    0880
    8008 is EVEN
    0088
    I'm not sure exactly how the combination rule works. Specifically, I don't know how any two odd sets can be combined to make an even one, but my interpretation of odd and even is obviously not quite correct. What about:

    0000
    0000
    0000

    (even?)

    and:

    8008
    0880
    8008

    ?
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