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Posers and Puzzles

Posers and Puzzles

  1. 17 Apr '05 16:41 / 1 edit


    white to play

    i guess some of you have seen this before. if you have, dont post any solutions.

    and try to solve this on your own...
    EDIT: by the way. it took over 2 minutes for Kasparov to solve this.
  2. Standard member Bowmann
    Non-Subscriber
    17 Apr '05 17:19
    Is it Black to win? Or should we guess.
  3. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    17 Apr '05 17:29
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    [fen]3K4/kp6/p7/1P6/8/8/7P/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]

    white to play

    i guess some of you have seen this before. if you have, dont post any solutions.

    and try to solve this on your own...
    EDIT: by the way. it took over 2 minutes for Kasparov to solve this.
    1.b6+! Forcing Black to promote on the a-file.
    1...Kxb6 2.h4 a5 ... 6.h8Q wins.
  4. 17 Apr '05 19:49
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    1.b6+! Forcing Black to promote on the a-file.
    1...Kxb6 2.h4 a5 ... 6.h8Q wins.
    Well there is 1...Kb8!
  5. 17 Apr '05 20:05 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by ilywrin
    Well there is 1...Kb8!
    In fact, it is probably the main line.
    Some nice stalemate cheapos there.
  6. 18 Apr '05 04:56
    Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDER
    In fact, it is probably the main line.
    Some nice stalemate cheapos there.
    yes b6+! kb8! are best moves for both, but still it is whites win.
  7. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's about respect
    18 Apr '05 07:19 / 1 edit
    NM
  8. 19 Apr '05 09:07
    Hmmm... How unfortunate that I know this study. A really marvelous piece...
  9. 19 Apr '05 12:30
    wow that is simple

    just get the pawn down on the right to the bottom and check mate em there...
  10. 19 Apr '05 15:29
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    yes b6+! kb8! are best moves for both, but still it is whites win.
    how does white win?
  11. 19 Apr '05 15:32
    Originally posted by stenersk
    wow that is simple
    Yes, 'wow' is simple.
  12. 19 Apr '05 15:37
    Originally posted by stenersk
    wow that is simple

    just get the pawn down on the right to the bottom and check mate em there...
    COULDN'T GET IT!!!!!!!!!!
  13. Standard member Peakite
    Sais
    19 Apr '05 20:17
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    1.b6+! Forcing Black to promote on the a-file.
    1...Kxb6 2.h4 a5 ... 6.h8Q wins.
    Well I didn't spot this one at all, though Q+P vs Q+P wouldn't work. Of course writing down the moves and it does.

    If
    1. b6+ Kb8
    2. h4 a5
    3. h5 a4
    4. h6 a3
    5. h7 a2
    6. h8=Q a1=Q

    Now Qxa1 is stalemate, but rather stupidly I missed Qg8, Qf8 or Qe8. Depending on blacks next move white will soon mate.

    7........ Qc1/c3
    8. Kd7+ (BTW any specific algebraic symbols for a check like this?)
  14. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    19 Apr '05 21:54
    Originally posted by Peakite
    Well I didn't spot this one at all, though Q+P vs Q+P wouldn't work. Of course writing down the moves and it does.

    If
    1. b6+ Kb8
    2. h4 a5
    3. h5 a4
    4. h6 a3
    5. h7 a2
    6. h8=Q a1=Q

    Now Qxa1 is stalemate, but rather stupidly I missed Qg8, Qf8 or Qe8. Depending on blacks next move white will soon mate.

    7........ Qc1/c3
    8. Kd7+ (BTW any specific algebraic symbols for a check like this?)
    7...Qc1/c3?? gives up too easily. Black will instead continue his theme of playing for stalemate by answering 7.Qg8 with Qa2!, etc.
  15. 19 Apr '05 22:03 / 6 edits
    But instead of 7... c1, can't blacks queen shuttle up and down the a column, keeping a diagonal attack on white's queen while white's queen is on row 8 - with QxQ = stalemate? I think it has to be specifically 7 Qe8

    7 Qe8 Qa4
    8 Qe5+ Ka8
    9 Qh8
    Now if black's queen moves to a1, white can take it - crucially with check, if black tries Qf4 white has Qa1 check, followed by mate.


    Originally posted by Peakite
    Well I didn't spot this one at all, though Q+P vs Q+P wouldn't work. Of course writing down the moves and it does.

    If
    1. b6+ Kb8
    2. h4 a5
    3. h5 a4
    4. h6 a3
    5. h7 a2
    6. h8=Q a1=Q

    Now Qxa1 is stalemate, but rather stupidlyI missed Qg8, Qf8 or Qe8. Depending on blacks next move white will soon mate.

    7........ Qc1/c3
    8. Kd7+ (BTW any specific algebraic symbols for a check like this?)