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Originally posted by BowmannHis teacher would know, of course.
Next time you're there, give it a try.
Originally posted by I14U2NVProbably a significant fraction of the speed of light. Try using c just to be safe.
There seems to always be a catch...I will have to think more about this.
Edit: While I am thinking about this...I need to ask how fast can the fastest spacecraft travel? How far is the farthest starting point from which an advanced alien can be coming from? I guess this is more my answer as to why easily we could still argue there simply not here yet.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAlthough not proven through testing yet...it appears that "Gravitrons" may actually travel faster than the speed of light. The gravity from Stars and planets are presumed to transfer "information" across space faster than the speed of light travels. A change in a Sun's orbit almost instantaneously causes any surrounding stars or planets to alter their orbit. These resultant changes in orbits are thought of as a result of the "exchange of information" exerted through gravitational influence on the surrounding objects. Gravitrons represent the mechanism by which this "information" is exchaned.
Probably a significant fraction of the speed of light. Try using c just to be safe.
Originally posted by uzlessIf gravitons can go faster than light, anything with normal matter still can't. If you can invent a graviton engine, you have to construct it in gravitons only, with not even a screw made of ordinar matter, then, hypotetically, you can make it travel faster than speed. Otherwise not.
Although not proven through testing yet...it appears that "Gravitrons" may actually travel faster than the speed of light. The gravity from Stars and planets are presumed to transfer "information" across space faster than the speed of light travels. A change in a Sun's orbit almost instantaneously causes any surrounding stars or planets to alter their orbit ...[text shortened]... a gravitron engine, you could travel faster than the speed of light.
Stay tuned....
Originally posted by FabianFnasAlso, a person is not made of gravitons and could also not travel. Of course, Einstein's theory needs to be reviewed if the existence of gravitons is ever proven (and shown that they travel faster than c).
If gravitons can go faster than light, anything with normal matter still can't. If you can invent a graviton engine, you have to construct it in gravitons only, with not even a screw made of ordinar matter, then, hypotetically, you can make it travel faster than speed. Otherwise not.
It's the velocity v=c that is the problem, not c>v.
Originally posted by GastelPerhaps it is even so that the gravitons are propagating with a speed *less* than light?
Also, a person is not made of gravitons and could also not travel. Of course, Einstein's theory needs to be reviewed if the existence of gravitons is ever proven (and shown that they travel faster than c).
Originally posted by GastelIf you could store all the information needed to define a person in some sort of graviton form, you could reconstruct the person when the FTL graviton engine got to it's destination - thus FTL travel. However transmitting information FTL may not be possible at all.
Also, a person is not made of gravitons and could also not travel. Of course, Einstein's theory needs to be reviewed if the existence of gravitons is ever proven (and shown that they travel faster than c).
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThis is an interesting philosofical question:
If you could store all the information needed to define a person in some sort of graviton form, you could reconstruct the person when the FTL graviton engine got to it's destination - thus FTL travel.
Originally posted by FabianFnasI'd forgotten about that.
This is an interesting philosofical question:
If you make a copy of a person - is then the two the same person?
If you travel by this principle - sending the information and reconstruct a copy - the one getting there is he the same person? And what about the original one, is he still left?, has he travelled at all?
What's the point by this travel if it is just your copy that will travel and not yourself?
Originally posted by uzlessWhere are you getting this 'It appears Gravitrons travel faster than C'?
Although not proven through testing yet...it appears that "Gravitrons" may actually travel faster than the speed of light. The gravity from Stars and planets are presumed to transfer "information" across space faster than the speed of light travels. A change in a Sun's orbit almost instantaneously causes any surrounding stars or planets to alter their orbit ...[text shortened]... a gravitron engine, you could travel faster than the speed of light.
Stay tuned....
Originally posted by AThousandYoungLet’s make an experiment:
I'd forgotten about that.
I am not made of the same atoms I was in the past, so clearly it's the arrangement of matter that is important and not the matter itself. But then if there were two of me arranged identically...what then?
Good for you for mentioning it.
Originally posted by FabianFnasHuman life is not able to be copied. This takes us into spirituality...again.
Let’s make an experiment:
We have an apparatus who copies a human being, let’s say yourself. The copy you get is atom for atom, electron for electron exatly the same, and moreover, having exactly the same position and the same spin and all those things I cannot think of. What do we get?
Specifically, what about memory? We have long-range memory, wir ...[text shortened]... about the essence of life itself, is it copyable, or is it copy protected?
Only questions...
Originally posted by liteswordatlitespeedWow, a lot of assumptions there. First assuming some sort of supreme being made us or the universe. It didn't have to happen that way just because you THINK it should have.
Human life is not able to be copied. This takes us into spirituality...again.
Fabian your questions go deeper than you think.
The essence of life was made by one Supreme Being and cannot be duplicated, replicated, copied, and/or cloned in any way.
The copy would have to be emotionless, because he was created in a laboratory by a human ...[text shortened]... down the wrong path and you got blamed for everything bad that it did?
Wouldn't that stink?