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The numbers are so easy you dont need algebra as a first guess works:

The garden is 5x9 so area is 45

The border are is 24

Therefore the centre area is 45-24=21

If the problem maker is a nice guy he will make the solution in whole numbers so lets try a central area of 3x7

That means border is 1 foot.

Check it out

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
The numbers are so easy you dont need algebra as a first guess works:

The garden is 5x9 so area is 45

The border are is 24

Therefore the centre area is 45-24=21

If the problem maker is a nice guy he will make the solution in whole numbers so lets try a central area of 3x7

That means border is 1 foot.

Check it out
obviously right, so here is the algebra

45 -(4x^2 - 28x + 45) = 24 The trinomial represents the area of
the inside rectangle and x equals
the width of the border
yada yada

two solutions but 1,6 6 is to large so x = 1

so there is the algebra that wasnt needed.....hahah

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thanx thats alot easier i cant really believe i didnt get itπŸ™

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ok new one!
....6.....|.....8.....|...11....|...15

....4.....|.....7.....|...5......|...?

8......5..|.17...5.|..6....11.|.8.....6

find the ? by using the same relationship as the other triangles

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and we suck. does noone look at these anymore??

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Originally posted by tournymangr
and we suck. does noone look at these anymore??
i look at it but i'm not sure what you mean!

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okk its supposed to be a triangle seperated by the vertical lines where the same process is used to find the centre number.

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Originally posted by tournymangr
okk its supposed to be a triangle seperated by the vertical lines where the same process is used to find the centre number.
It took you 10 edits to print that and you still spelled "ok" wrong?!? πŸ™„

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Originally posted by tournymangr
ok new one!
....6.....|.....8.....|...11....|...15

....4.....|.....7.....|...5......|...?

8......5..|.17...5.|..6....11.|.8.....6

find the ? by using the same relationship as the other triangles
With just the info you have supplied there is no unique answer.

If we assume something like

F(x, y, z) = w and is a linear function of x,y,z

Where x is top number and y & z are bottom numbers. w is middle number

I think you get your unknown as 169/21 .. but thats on a small scrap of paper I will check but doubt that is answer you want!!!

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Originally posted by PBE6
It took you 10 edits to print that and you still spelled "ok" [b]wrong?!? πŸ™„[/b]
actually no. i was at knightstalker 47s house and he decided to press the button a dozen times.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
With just the info you have supplied there is no unique answer.

If we assume something like

F(x, y, z) = w and is a linear function of x,y,z

Where x is top number and y & z are bottom numbers. w is middle number

I think you get your unknown as 169/21 .. but thats on a small scrap of paper I will check but doubt that is answer you want!!!
uhhhh.....no. if you multiply the bottom numbers then subtract the top, you get the centre number, twice. i.e 17*5=85, 85-8=77, the centre number would be 7.

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Originally posted by tournymangr
uhhhh.....no. if you multiply the bottom numbers then subtract the top, you get the centre number, twice. i.e 17*5=85, 85-8=77, the centre number would be 7.
OK
so your solution is

F(x,y,z) = 11(yz-x)

tidier than mine but no more valid. As I said there are an infinite number of solutions depending on how devious you want to be.

My linear solution is unique. Your quadratic solution isnt.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
OK
so your solution is

F(x,y,z) = 11(yz-x)

tidier than mine but no more valid. As I said there are an infinite number of solutions depending on how devious you want to be.

My linear solution is unique. Your quadratic solution isnt.
yes your solution does give mine a kick in the butt but it wasnt meant to be so hard. the formula you came up with is genius. i hadnt thought it that way before. well done!

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.. actually that doesnt work!!! (your solution and hence my explanation of it!)

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
.. actually that doesnt work!!! (your solution and hence my explanation of it!)
how so? 8*6 is 48. 48-15 is 33. you take the number thats doubled (i.e. 3) and theres youre answer. its not that hard.

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