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Will the airplane fly?

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Originally posted by flyUnity
A plane is standing on a runway that can move (some sort of treadmill). The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves at the same speed but in the opposite direction. Can the plane take off?"

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NO

Shyte, you're a pilot????

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However, an airplane sitting on the ground at rest, with the wind passing over the chord of the wings will attain lift. Ever hear of battens? High winds or tornados?

It's the exact opposite of what you are rattling on about.

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Originally posted by flyUnity
Some of my flying buddies were having this discussion, And IMO the plane WILL take off, The plane is moving forward 100 kts, the treadmill is going backwards 100 kts, Tires are spinning at 200 kts which has nothing to do with flight. But some of my friends say Im wrong,


http://forums.probetalk.com/showthread.php?t=1701213339

I left the family band ...[text shortened]... ig tour back east with my family, Then maybe move back to AZ and see if I can get a job flying.
Hmmm, let's see... 100 subtracted from 100 equals.... well... Zero knots!!!!!

Get some smaller tires and let them rotate at 300rpm. Who effing cares?!
You boys just stay in the bar and keep out of the air.

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Originally posted by Frank Burns
Hmmm, let's see... 100 subtracted from 100 equals.... well... Zero knots!!!!!

Get some smaller tires and let them rotate at 300rpm. Who effing cares?!
You boys just stay in the bar and keep out of the air.
Frank! When did you become such a grump?! 😀

You are right except that in this case you can't subtract the plane speed from the treadmill speed. The treadmill speed and direction are not in any way able to influence the plane speed.

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Indeed, all the treadmill does is make the wheels rotate faster.

The friction between the wheels and the suspension is negligable.

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Originally posted by Frank Burns
Hmmm, let's see... 100 subtracted from 100 equals.... well... Zero knots!!!!!

Get some smaller tires and let them rotate at 300rpm. Who effing cares?!
You boys just stay in the bar and keep out of the air.
I polled my coworkers (20 different pilots) 18 said that the plane WILL takeoff, 2 said that the plane wont takeoff, (one changed his mind after the 18 other pilots hammered on him) so it was 19 v 1

I polled random non pilots, 50 % said it wont take off, The difference is that they dont understand that the plane is not powered by its wheels, but they are freely rotating.

Also just for your information, putting a smaller tire on will not increase the tire speed, it will stay at 200 kts regardless

Edit: n/m, just seen you said "RPM"

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Originally posted by flyUnity
I polled my coworkers (20 different pilots) 18 said that the plane WILL takeoff, 2 said that the plane wont takeoff, (one changed his mind after the 18 other pilots hammered on him) so it was 19 v 1

I polled random non pilots, 50 % said it wont take off, The difference is that they dont understand that the plane is not powered by its wheels, but they are ...[text shortened]... ease the tire speed, it will stay at 200 kts regardless

Edit: n/m, just seen you said "RPM"
okay, i'd sure like to see the pilot who didn't know that the plane wasn't powered by it's wheels. doesn't that sound a little suspcious?

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Originally posted by coquette
okay, i'd sure like to see the pilot who didn't know that the plane wasn't powered by it's wheels. doesn't that sound a little suspcious?
Maybe he thought that any spinny thing was called a "wheel".

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