1. Zugzwang
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    23 Jul '18 04:592 edits
    The 2018 IPO has started in Lisbon, Portugal.
    Each country may send five students.
    No results to report yet.

    There's a nice webpage about the 20 students invited
    to the US physics team training camp.
    As far as I can tell from the names and photos,
    13 students are east Asian (about all Chinese), including 2 females
    4 students are south Asian (Indian), 3 students are white.

    The US team at the IPO has three Chinese, one woman
    who seems Chinese or Korean, and one Indian.

    According to their profiles, the team members seem to
    be very intelligent, studious young people with a considerable
    variety of interests. But they likely will be stereotyped
    and perhaps discriminated against in the USA for being
    supposedly boring uncreative narrow-minded Asian nerds.
  2. SubscriberWOLFE63
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    23 Jul '18 05:20
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    The 2018 IPO has started in Lisbon, Portugal.
    Each country may send five students.
    No results to report yet.

    There's a nice webpage about the 20 students invited
    to the US physics team training camp.
    As far as I can tell from the names and photos,
    13 students are east Asian (about all Chinese), including 2 females
    4 students are south Asian (Indi ...[text shortened]... criminated against in the USA for being
    supposedly boring uncreative narrow-minded Asian nerds.
    But THEY ARE all Americans.

    Your little game of continuously pointing out the racial ancestry of Americans, betrays you. You lose your ant hill of moral high ground every time you do so.

    And, the theme has grown tiresome. Change the channel please.
  3. Zugzwang
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    23 Jul '18 19:115 edits
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    But THEY ARE all Americans.

    Your little game of continuously pointing out the racial ancestry of Americans, betrays you. You lose your ant hill of moral high ground every time you do so.

    And, the theme has grown tiresome. Change the channel please.
    Richard Harris said that if he wins an acting award, the UK media describe him as a 'British actor',
    but if he's arrested for a drunken brawl, the same media describe him as an 'Irish actor'.

    "But THEY ARE all Americans."
    --Wolfe63

    At least in part, though some of them could have other citizenship in addition to US citizenship.

    For the 2017 Informatics Olympiad, the US team consisted of four students of Chinese heritage.
    Given that the Olympiad was held in Iran, the US government apparently urged a boycott,
    though it's unclear that it had the authority to compel all the students not to attend.
    Three of the four Chinese American students respected the boycott and did not attend the Olympiad.
    Apparently acting on his own, however, the other student went to Iran (where he was warmly
    welcomed) and 'represented' the USA as best he could, becoming one of the top scorers.
    I don't know if he used (or could have used) a US passport to travel to Iran.
    Perhaps he used a non-US passport to travel to Iran. It's even possible that he was
    a permanent resident of the USA but not a US citizen and so had no US passport.

    US propaganda (even reference books) has dishonestly denied or distorted some Asian identities.
    In 1957, the Nobel Prize in physics was won by Tsung-Dao Lee and Chen-Ning Yang,
    who were both and grew up in China. Until they won the Nobel Prize, Americans had
    perceived them only as Chinese. For US propaganda purposes, as soon as they won the
    Nobel Prize, the US media described them as EXCLUSIVELY American, denying that
    they were Chinese at all, even though both Lee and Yang were NOT US citizens.
    In fact, they had not even applied for US citizenship. In fact, they were undecided about
    becoming US citizens. In particular, ,Yang seemed worried about the future in a deeply
    racist society like the USA. Lee and Yang (1964) became US citizens several years later,
    as the US civil rights movement began to take off, promising a future freer of racism.

    So did Lee and Yang live happily ever after as US citizens in the USA?
    When the US government allowed it, both Lee and Yang resumed contact with China
    in order to encourage science education there. Yang (who seemed a bit more 'political' )
    returned to live in China and made the emphatic point of renouncing his US citizenship.
    But many US reference books still misleadingly list Lee and Yang as 'American' when
    they won the 1957 Nobel Prize in physics.
  4. Zugzwang
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    30 Jul '18 17:442 edits
    The 2018 International Physics Olympiad has concluded.
    Here's a ranked list of the 42 winners of gold medals:

    Name Country Experimental Theory Total Score
    1) Yang Tianhua China 16.9 29.9 46.8
    2) Bobkov Grigorii Russia 15.2 27.3 42.5
    3) Dongjin Shin South Korea 12.65 29.5 42.15
    4) Dylan Toh Shan Hong Singapore 12.7 29.4 42.1
    5) Daniel Zhu USA 11.6 29.8 41.4
    6) Chen Shiqi China 11.75 29.5 41.25
    7) Pawan Goyal India 11.5 29.5 41
    8) Iakovlev Zakhar Russia 14.85 25.9 40.75
    9) Xue Zeyang China 11.4 29.3 40.7
    10) Kiwhan Song South Korea 11.55 29.1 40.65
    11) Li Xingqiao China 12.4 28 40.4
    12) Lay Jain India 10.75 29.5 40.25
    13) Seongyeon Park South Korea 11 29 40
    13) Dong Zehao China 10.3 29.7 40
    15) Dowon Im South Korea 12.05 26.1 38.15
    16) Nguyen Ngoc Long Vietnam 9.3 28.8 38.1
    17) Tran Duc Huy Vietnam 9.25 28.7 37.95
    18) Kuznetsov Viacheslav Russia 11.5 26.4 37.9
    18) Jonatan Hadas Israel 10.2 27.7 37.9
    20) Siddharth Tiwary India 9.85 27.2 37.05
    21) Aukkarwit Nakprasert Thailand 10.5 26.5 37
    22) Lu Ziyou Singapore 9.8 27.1 36.9
    22) Shang-Hsuan Chung Taiwan 8.9 28 36.9
    24) CotruČ› Petru Romania 11.35 25.1 36.45
    25) Bhaskar Gupta India 9.9 26.4 36.3
    25) Yuqing Xie USA 8.9 27.4 36.3
    27) Tsapaev Stanislav Russia 8.75 27.5 36.25
    28) Takuma Okura Japan 8.45 27.7 36.15
    29) Johanes Suhardjo Indonesia 10.45 25.6 36.05
    30) Gopal Goel USA 9 27 36
    31) Eyal Shlomo Walach Israel 10.2 25.6 35.8
    31) Chang-Han Chen Taiwan 8.3 27.5 35.8
    33) Joshua Teo Wei Hern Singapore 9.3 26.3 35.6
    34) Hugo Mccahon-Boersma Australia 9.95 25.5 35.45
    35) Sutter Adrien France 10 25.4 35.4
    36) Alejandro Epelde Blanco Spain 10.35 25 35.35
    37) Li-Yuan Chiang Taiwan 8.9 26.4 35.3
    37) Rahul Arya Hong Kong 8.6 26.7 35.3
    39) Jianzhi Wang Singapore 9.7 25.5 35.2
    40) Cem Arda Tepe Turkey 8.35 26.7 35.05
    40) Nishant Abhangi India 5.65 29.4 35.05
    42) Wei-Bo Kao Taiwan 9.8 25.2 35

    No official medals are awarded for a team competition.
    Unofficially, China's team was clearly 1st, with all five members finishing from 1st to 13th
    (tied), followed by Korea (South) in 2nd, and Russia in 3rd in total scores.
    While four Koreans won gold medals and another nearly missed (by 0.55 point) a gold medal
    and all five Indians won gold medals (one did so barely by 0.60 point), Korea (South)
    still had a higher total score than India. Nonetheless, India did much better in the
    International Physics Olympiad than in the International Mathematical Olympiad.

    Teams Number of Members (out of 5) who won gold medals (42)
    China 5
    India 5
    Korea (South) 4
    Russia 4
    Singapore 4
    Taiwan 4
    USA 3 (top 2 were ethnic Chinese, followed by an Indian)
    Vietnam 2
    Israel 2
    Thailand 1
    Romania 1
    Japan 1
    Indonesia 1
    Australia 1
    France 1
    Spain 1
    Hong Kong 1
    Turkey 1

    There's dominance by some Asian teams in general and ethnic Chinese in particular
    (contrary to Western stereotypes).

    If one wonders about how some European countries with strong physics traditions did,
    the best German narrowly missed (by 0.55 point) a gold medal, becoming one of two
    Germans to win silver medals. The UK team won four bronze medals. The best result by
    anyone from the Netherlands was an 'honourable mention', narrowly missing a bronze medal.
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