Originally posted by Proper Knob Have i taken this argument to the spirituality forum?
NO.
So yet again you seem to be talking out your arse. What a surpirse.
now now noobster, i have warned you about your profanities, please refrain, and just for the record, the very same thread, in the spirituality forum, was by coincidence, veering towards this very same subject matter, concerning the duration of humans on earth. i wonder why you sought to prove the invalidity of the Biblical claim, just pure chance i suppose.
Originally posted by Palynka I imagine that taking matches as random, as population grows, the prob of marrying first, second or third cousins decreases and will definitely dilute.
We all descend from the mitochondrial Eve anyway, right?
Yes, but the speed at which we descended from mitochondrial Eve is much slower.
Originally posted by KazetNagorra Yes, but the speed at which we descended from mitochondrial Eve is much slower.
What matters here is the probability of consanguinity, which is more related to population size and geographical dispersion than "speed". If we simulate random matches, even a population of 50k will have a small probability of direct consanguinity.
Do you know how consanguineous must the couple be for the increases in the probability of genetic disease to be significant?
Originally posted by Palynka What matters here is the probability of consanguinity, which is more related to population size and geographical dispersion than "speed". If we simulate random matches, even a population of 50k will have a small probability of direct consanguinity.
Do you know how consanguineous must the couple be for the increases in the probability of genetic disease to be significant?
I have no idea what the criteria are, that's why I popped the question.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie now now noobster, i have warned you about your profanities, please refrain, and just for the record, the very same thread, in the spirituality forum, was by coincidence, veering towards this very same subject matter, concerning the duration of humans on earth. i wonder why you sought to prove the invalidity of the Biblical claim, just pure chance i suppose.
What is it that makes bullies like you think you can tell people what to do? You throw out phrases like "take it to spirituality" as if your voice has some God-like quality to it that must be obeyed. Curious...
Originally posted by PinkFloyd What is it that makes bullies like you think you can tell people what to do? You throw out phrases like "take it to spirituality" as if your voice has some God-like quality to it that must be obeyed. Curious...
Originally posted by robbie carrobie now now noobster, i have warned you about your profanities, please refrain, and just for the record, the very same thread, in the spirituality forum, was by coincidence, veering towards this very same subject matter, concerning the duration of humans on earth. i wonder why you sought to prove the invalidity of the Biblical claim, just pure chance i suppose.
Originally posted by Proper Knob This was the point i was coming on to.
If we consider the Bibles genesis creation story, 4300yrs ago there were only 8 people on the planet. As Playnka has demonstrated, even with an extremely generous population growth there would only be around 100,000 people on the planet by the time the pyramid of Giza was built 1500yrs later. And that doesn't take into account, the civilisations in Mesopotamia, China, India and all the rest.
As already pointed out by Palynka, that is not right at all. If God suspended disease for a bit and allowed people to have say 8 children, then the worlds population could very easily be accounted for. I believe Joseph supposedly came from a family of 12, though I don't recall whether they all had the same mother - probably not.
A much more important question is where the genetic diversity of current people originated as any studies of that give date further back than 4,300 years, but again, if you believe that God could get 2 of every animal to converge on an ark then flood the whole earth, then introducing a little genetic diversity would be a trivial task.
18 Sep '09 12:59
Adam & Eve.
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