23 Oct 08
Originally posted by sonhouseOh no, not another thread that will eventually turn over to an endless discussion about creationism vs science, and later of god and how he behaves...
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026793.000-creationists-declare-war-over-the-brain.html
Now it's the old dualism of the mind thing, trying to force yet more religous based crap on science.
This will once again be an arena for KJ to preach his anti-science views...
23 Oct 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasHopefully we can keep it to the discussion about the mind/brain duality.
Oh no, not another thread that will eventually turn over to an endless discussion about creationism vs science, and later of god and how he behaves...
This will once again be an arena for KJ to preach his anti-science views...
They say consciousness is not in the brain. Which is weird considering if you lose blood to the brain, you body can go on automatic but no sign of consciousness so where do these people get this stuff from? Where would it be then? In your knees?
23 Oct 08
Originally posted by sonhouseWho cares what the creationists say? They say too much as it is.
Hopefully we can keep it to the discussion about the mind/brain duality.
They say consciousness is not in the brain. Which is weird considering if you lose blood to the brain, you body can go on automatic but no sign of consciousness so where do these people get this stuff from? Where would it be then? In your knees?
One thing's for sure though, it is not science. Therefore what they say should be in the Spiritual Forum and not here. Don't invite them here, sonhouse, please, don't feed them...
24 Oct 08
Originally posted by EladarNow I have to agree to Eladar. (Not about the idiot-thing though.) This thread should be in the Spiritual Forum, because it's about creationism, or will quite soon be about creationism.
As far as I know, there's only one idiot at this site posting this stuff in this forum.
So, please, create this kind of subjects in the right Forum and you will have right responses from the right people. Creationsim has nothing to do with science.
24 Oct 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasI was thinking maybe there was something scientific to discuss about the mind duality, but on reflection, they are full of crap, our consciousness has to be in our brains. Sorry for bringing it in here. Closed as far as I am concerned.
Now I have to agree to Eladar. (Not about the idiot-thing though.) This thread should be in the Spiritual Forum, because it's about creationism, or will quite soon be about creationism.
So, please, create this kind of subjects in the right Forum and you will have right responses from the right people. Creationsim has nothing to do with science.
24 Oct 08
Originally posted by sonhouseOkay, this thread is hereby closed.
I was thinking maybe there was something scientific to discuss about the mind duality, but on reflection, they are full of crap, our consciousness has to be in our brains. Sorry for bringing it in here. Closed as far as I am concerned.
A thread similar to this, I'd be happy to follow in the Spiritual Forum.
28 Oct 08
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Originally posted by sonhouseI tend to think consciousness is in the brain too, but your lose of
Hopefully we can keep it to the discussion about the mind/brain duality.
They say consciousness is not in the brain. Which is weird considering if you lose blood to the brain, you body can go on automatic but no sign of consciousness so where do these people get this stuff from? Where would it be then? In your knees?
blood to the brain doesn't mean anything one way or another, if the
brain were just a stop along the way to where ever consciousness
does occur. It would be no different than cutting off a water supply
up stream where water powers some equipment, once the water
was cut off the equipment would suffer. I see mocking faith is still
a high priority with you without anyone bringing it up but you and
others who claim to want to avoid the topic.
Kelly
28 Oct 08
Originally posted by KellyJayPlease keep on-topic. Don't let this thread be about faith.
I see mocking faith is still
a high priority with you without anyone bringing it up but you and
others who claim to want to avoid the topic.
Kelly
As long it's on-topic, this can be an interesting thread to follow. But can we please discuss this in iew of Science, and not faith, religion, ID or anything else that should be written in Spiritual Forum, or elsewhere...?
29 Oct 08
Originally posted by sonhouseConscious thought which uses one area of the brain, depending on the task, distracts whatever thoughts create the OCD and prevents neurons firing in other regions of the brain. I'm sure its more complex than how I've described, but I don't see how they reach their conclusions of the mind and brain being a separate entity (i.e the duality).
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026793.000-creationists-declare-war-over-the-brain.html
Now it's the old dualism of the mind thing, trying to force yet more religous based crap on science.
Seems like its all brain to me.....
Bringing science to the masses is one of the greatest challenges I think currently faces 'science'. Read any journal and you will note that to understand most articles you need a damn good knowledge surrounding the subject, and we are all guilty of this, I mean try and dumb down an article for publication (it wont get published)..... its unfortunately elitism that drags us down. Even New Scientist, which does a good job at dumbing things down is still beyond the understanding of most outside of a science background.
Communcation is a key skill in science and pitching everything at the right level is something we should all aim for.
A little rant I know, which can largely be ignored :-)
01 Nov 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasIf you could do the same we would all be thankful.
Please keep on-topic. Don't let this thread be about faith.
As long it's on-topic, this can be an interesting thread to follow. But can we please discuss this in iew of Science, and not faith, religion, ID or anything else that should be written in Spiritual Forum, or elsewhere...?
Kelly