Originally posted by FabianFnas
"If god exists then..." is the same kind of asssumption as "If you travel with a speed faster than that of light, then...".
If you assume something unscientific, then every statement following cannot be right or wrong, just undefined.
The existance of god isn't a part of science, because it assumes that natural laws can be broken, therefore not scientific.
Hey FF, hope you are OK, high and kicking!
The case as posed by clearlight is related to the existence of probable philosophical theories and scientific facts and evidence pointing towards the existence of an entity which the religious people tend to call "god".
If there were such facts and evidence I would accept asap the existence of such an entity. If this entity was presented like, say, the force of gravity but with utmost conceptual awareness, and if its effects in the physical world were measurable the way the effects of gravity are, and if it was possible to prove that the "attitude" and the results caused by the force of the gravity were self imposed consiously and according to the will of this "Divine Gravity", which by the way is eager to be worshiped by the Human the way the Christians/ Muslims et al pose it, then yeap, I would accept that "god" exists (although I am not sure if I would like to worship such an entity regardless of its intelligence and its force).
In that case, the fact that the "Divine Gravity" distorts at will specific physical phenomena, it would necessarily mean that the natural laws could be broken solely by means of a "miracle".
Or have we to assume that the distortions caused by the black holes are anyway "miracles" that they are breaking the natural laws, and that the gravity itself as we know it is just one of the countless footprints of the existence of God?
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