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  1. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    27 Jun '13 05:37 / 1 edit
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaGrA2wIP8Y

    The Instructor
  2. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    27 Jun '13 05:45
    Ancient Voyages to America - Who Were The First Explorers?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=CwG6CcJiw6Q&NR=1

    The Instructor
  3. 27 Jun '13 06:06
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Chinese First To Discovered America
    Actually, no, the native Americans were truly the first, but normally when we talk of 'discovery' we are referring to European discovery. So when someone says David Livingstone discovered the 'Victoria falls' what we mean is he was the first European.
  4. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    27 Jun '13 10:35
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Actually, no, the native Americans were truly the first, but normally when we talk of 'discovery' we are referring to European discovery. So when someone says David Livingstone discovered the 'Victoria falls' what we mean is he was the first European.
    Of course the native Americans WERE asian, coming across a land bridge some 20,000 years ago into Alaska and south, all the way to Tiera Del Fuego so in that sense RJ is right. The artifacts discovered recently were just a has been race
  5. 27 Jun '13 13:26
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Of course the native Americans WERE asian,
    And the Asians were really Africans, as were we all.
  6. 29 Jun '13 00:42 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaGrA2wIP8Y

    The Instructor
    off topic if you looked at the octopus thread, which moved onto snakes the 100 flower snake - China , looks just like a corn snake - N America,

    Also there is an ancient Chinese legend of a giant river snake, they made human sacrifices to until a wise man told them it was stupid (read that on wiki) And there is a giant caiman / crocodile / man eating river snake - Green Anaconda up to 30ft now, probably 40ft+ when it had more space and crocs - S America.

    I will watch your vid sorry
  7. 29 Jun '13 07:08 / 5 edits
    Boring but wiki says an anaconda reaches 15ft, not so, a yellow (dwarf) anaconda reaches 12ft. The books I had said 25 - 30 ft in the wild which means you could get 35ft+ specimens, you get the odd snake in all breeds that grows very big.

    The Phonecians probably found quite a few continents, maybe the Chinese too. I read that Vikings made it to America at some point.
  8. 29 Jun '13 07:39 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by e4chris
    The Phonecians probably found quit a few continents,.....
    There are only 7 continents. The Phoenicians lived on one (Africa) and were immediate neighbours to two others (Asia and Europe), so one could hardly claim they 'discovered' them.
    So that leaves North America, South America, Antarctica, and Australia.
    So when you say 'quite a few' which ones are you suggesting?

    Edit: I got that wrong. They were in Asia, and Africa was an immediate neighbour.
  9. 29 Jun '13 07:59
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    There are only 7 continents. The Phoenicians lived on one (Africa) and were immediate neighbours to two others (Asia and Europe), so one could hardly claim they 'discovered' them.
    So that leaves North America, South America, Antarctica, and Australia.
    So when you say 'quite a few' which ones are you suggesting?

    Edit: I got that wrong. They were in Asia, and Africa was an immediate neighbour.
    I don't know, but they had boats and they travelled around selling things
  10. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    02 Jul '13 00:06
    Originally posted by e4chris
    I don't know, but they had boats and they travelled around selling things
    Thank you Professor.
  11. 02 Jul '13 00:26
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Thank you Professor.
    the boats were partly made of wood if that helps
  12. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    02 Jul '13 02:15 / 1 edit
    There is some evidence that the first people in the Americas were Australasian, and got there about 30,000 years ago. According to a documentary I saw about a decade ago they found a skeleton in South America which seemed to be more characteristic of Australasians than Asians.
  13. Standard member mikelom
    Ajarn
    02 Jul '13 13:21
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    There is some evidence that the first people in the Americas were Australasian, and got there about 30,000 years ago. According to a documentary I saw about a decade ago they found a skeleton in South America which seemed to be more characteristic of Australasians than Asians.
    Weren't the Australians all sent from Liverpool, originally???

    -m.
  14. 02 Jul '13 16:16
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    There is some evidence that the first people in the Americas were Australasian, and got there about 30,000 years ago. According to a documentary I saw about a decade ago they found a skeleton in South America which seemed to be more characteristic of Australasians than Asians.
    Don't you mean pacific islanders?
  15. Subscriber Kewpie
    since 1-Feb-07
    03 Jul '13 06:08 / 1 edit
    All the native populations in this part of the world - Asia, Pacific Ocean islands, Australia and NZ - were part of the mass eastern migrations out of Africa, so we share much genetic material, even if we don't look alike.